[Moose-dev] Re: when can we avoid to have the white theme as default?

Hi Guillaume, Thanks. The contrast of the gray was reported before and I thought that we solved it by making the gray a bit darker. Finding this problem depends on the screen, and given that you have a less performant screen, could you please do the following experiment? Experiment: pick from the following picture the lightest gray that you see and then send back the number of the model (you can easily do this in GTInspector) view := ROMondrianViewBuilder new. view shape rectangle withoutBorder; width: 400; height: 1; fillColor: [ :each | Color gray: each ]. view nodes: (1 to: 0 by: -0.01). view verticalLineLayout gapSize: 10. view Doru On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Guillaume Larcheveque <guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com> wrote: The main problem was the border of each window. For someone who is not aware of every tool, they sometime missed the bottom of a window and they try to click on another one but were still on the previous one (this is just one problem that I remember). Because my goal was not to experiment the theme, I quickly moved users to the other glamourus theme. The problem is even bigger when you have a screen of bad quality like my acer laptop where I cannot see the border at all if I'm not right in the axis of my screen. 2014-04-06 8:33 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>om>: It's not quite so. It's just that we are not used to it. But, we can get used to with practice. Let's just start and in a year from now we will be better :). One way to do it is to talk about principles. For example, one principle I want in a basic theme is to use the least amount of graphical variables it can so that other interfaces that are built on top of it have the freedom to utilize the rest of the variables. Of course, the interface should still satisfy basic usability requirements like finding a piece of information. Another way to do it is to talk about actual cases that people have difficulties with and look at what can be improved there. So, what kind of information could not be found? What specific actions could not be carried out? Doru On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: This is amazing to see how user interfaces are so subjective and hard to formalize. At first, I was not happy with the white theme at all. But now, I find it nicer than the default theme. Unfortunately, I cannot say what i exactly like in the white theme. Alexandre On 5 Apr 2014, at 05:42, Guillaume Larcheveque <guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Guillaume Larcheveque _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow" _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev