28 Mar
2014
28 Mar
'14
11:44 p.m.
Hi Uko!
I had the very same feeling at the beginning. How to move back to the old debugger and
inspector was my first reaction. Now, that I use the debugger and the inspector, I cannot
live without them. The inspector is really a major improvement in my opinion. The debugger
could be significantly improved, yes. But I find the icons quite intuitive now.
Andrei, where are the colors in the stack frame list? That would be so cool to have
them...
Cheers,
Alexandre
Le 28-03-2014 à 11:04, Yuriy Tymchuk
<yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> a écrit :
I’m not used to a gt debugger. Debugging buttons have icons that are not easily
understandable, they are located fa from another things that i access. Also I like the
idea that you don’t have to spawn a new inspector when drilling down, but I like to have a
small workspace to test out something and close rather than big window of gt-playground.
The thing is that I was using Moose itself about a year ago. After that I was working
only in Pharo. Now when I needed to do something in Moose fast, I found myself in the
middle of dark technology :). I really don’t think that my issue is something serious, but
it’s a religious point of view, that if user wants to use Moose he shouldn’t be forced to
become a beta-tester of gt-toolkit and so on.
Uko
On 28 Mar 2014, at 14:45, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi Yuriy,
Please let's get concrete because only like that we can improve and learn from each
other. Up to now, you listed:
- Autocompletion being turned off - I agree that this should be on, but as it is now it
is a bit buggy - I did not yet raise my voice loudly because I did not have a chance of
looking into it in more details.
- White theme
What other things don't you like and why?
Doru
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk
<yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
It works. Just that I prefer it the other way around. I get suggestions disabled I can
enable them, but it takes some time. I get a white theme, I can switch to original one,
but it takes time. And so on. Also when I try to introduce someone who knows Pharo to
Moose I have also to introduce him to whole new tools.
I'm not insisting on keeping it there, this is just a thing that saves time because
Moose is loaded by CI
Uko
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev On 28 Mar 2014, at 13:38, Tudor Girba
<tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Apparently, it contains the code without having the Moose image setup being triggered.
@Yuriy: Could you let us know what exactly does not work for you?
Cheers,
Doru
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>
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> What Moose-less contains then?
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> Alexandre
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> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
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> > Hi guys.
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> > I’ve created a “Moose-less” version
https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/moose-5.0/1006/artifact/moose-5.0-less.zip because some
people (including me of course) don’t want to have all IDE revamped to use the features of
Moose. It’s created during a main Mosse build as it’s already there anyway. But if you
don’t like it, I can move it to somewhere else.
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