[Moose-dev] Re: Moose

Stephane tu as une liste ToDo ou quelque documentation pour aider dans Moose ? Bonne journée Hernán 2008/10/10 stephane ducasse &lt;stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr&gt; hernan we are currently porting moose to squeak. After we will have DSM, package blueprint, dsitribution map, (check our papers). http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/Publications.html Stef On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: 2008/10/9 Lukas Renggli &lt;renggli(a)gmail.com&gt; Cool, user interface. However, you do not detect two other important static dependencies: - Package A subclasses a class of package B. - Package A extends a class of package B. Yes, I was aware of loose methods (I'm interpreting extends here means LM) and hierarchy references, and my idea was to add an OBColumn next to the code pane like http://mail.wiresong.ca/pipermail/ob-dev/attachments/20080923/e19a0b11/atta… but it seems OmniBrowser do not allow this easily (creating a new column in a subclass of the traditional Standard Browser is even harder). You'll notice if I'm succeded in the next version :) We are using a similar tool to package Seaside. Unfortunately it has no GUI, but we are using GraphViz zu visualize the dependencies [1]. That is the original idea. I have never tried GraphViz, but from the image in the link I can see GraphViz is able to ensure disjointness between nodes but the image looks confusing, tangled, from an user's perception view. It seems like the layout adjustement algorithm were unable to preserve symmetries from an input (or breaks down the topology for the sake of preserving a proximity model). Is there a link explaining how to use GraphVIz from Squeak? I presume if graphs could be showed inside the Squeak image, the whole and details view problem could be solved, achieving simultaneity and uniqueness (that means, facilities like the fish-eye view enabling different magnification ratios). Have a look at Package-Dependencies in <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted>. It automatically calculates cycles and is able to hide transitive dependencies. It would be interesting to extend it further to also take selectors into account, that are only implemented in a single package. I will take a look at it. Cheers. Hernán There are other tools available: MudPie [2] and Moose [3]. Cheers, Lukas [1] http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/dropbox/seaside-2.9/seaside.png [2] http://map.squeak.org/package/617dbc24-e029-4d8c- a941-68db8c867952 [3] http://moose.unibe.ch/ On 10/9/08, David T. Lewis &lt;lewis(a)mail.msen.com&gt; wrote: wrote: packages in the Instructions for using looks -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch