Moose-dev May 2008

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Moose Dojo 22-23 May 2008
by Alexandre Bergel 15 May '08

15 May '08

Dear all, Last week end with the other of Doru, Toon and Stéphane we ported the core of Moose and most of Fame into Squeak. I think these two need to be tied up. Mondrian seems to be on its way. Is there any plan for this dojo? I will arrive in Bern on Wednesday 21 in the afternoon and will leave Saturday 24 early in the morning. Feel free to assign me to task. I wish to have moose on Squeak. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Re: [Moose] TU-Dortmund
by stephane ducasse 14 May '08

14 May '08

Hi Said can you tell us what you want to do? You can get the source by following the instructions available on the web site. http://moose.unibe.ch/ Stef On May 13, 2008, at 3:28 PM, said chihani wrote: > Hello. > My name is Chihani, i study Informatic in TU Dortmumd in Germany and > i want analyse Moose. > cann you give me please the guid from Moose. > _______________________________________________________________________ > Jetzt neu! Schützen Sie Ihren PC mit McAfee und WEB.DE. 30 Tage > kostenlos testen. http://www.pc-sicherheit.web.de/startseite/? > mc=022220 > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose mailing list > Moose(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose

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Fwd: [Moose] TU-Dortmund
by stephane ducasse 14 May '08

14 May '08

Begin forwarded message: > From: said chihani <chihani(a)web.de> > Date: May 13, 2008 3:28:12 PM CEDT > To: "moose(a)iam.unibe.ch" <moose(a)iam.unibe.ch> > Subject: [Moose] TU-Dortmund > > Hello. > My name is Chihani, i study Informatic in TU Dortmumd in Germany and > i want analyse Moose. > cann you give me please the guid from Moose. > _______________________________________________________________________ > Jetzt neu! Schützen Sie Ihren PC mit McAfee und WEB.DE. 30 Tage > kostenlos testen. http://www.pc-sicherheit.web.de/startseite/? > mc=022220 > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose mailing list > Moose(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose

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Fwd: A qustion about srcML
by Stéphane Ducasse 14 May '08

14 May '08

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Jonathan I. Maletic, Ph.D." <jmaletic(a)cs.kent.edu> > Date: May 13, 2008 7:41:23 PM CEDT > To: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>, Michael Collard <collard(a)cs.kent.edu > > > Subject: Re: A qustion about srcML > > >> >> Thanks. I was thinking that I could bridge it to our tools :) >> May be this question will help me to understand: >> when you have an AST, are the symbols resolved ? I guess not, I >> imagine that srcML gives you the parsed text as input. >> which is already something in C++ :) > > Stef, > > We have a separate tool to do name resolution, symbol table etc. > Name resolution is particularly difficult and this tool is not as > robust as the translator. We've not been handing the name > resolution stuff out until will do some more testing. As you said C > ++ is hell. We plan to get these other tools cleaned up over the > summer. > > So just running the translator you get un-resolved names. > > Jonathan > >> >>> Stef, >>> >>> We markup up down to the identifier level. But expressions are >>> not marked completely. That is identifiers in expressions are >>> marked but the entire AST for the expression is not done. So all >>> parameter lists are marked etc. >>> >>> Otherwise, everything else is marked up including preprocessor >>> statements, templates, and comments. Nothing is removed from the >>> original code code. You can get the exact original code back >>> including whitespace. >>> >>> Does this help? >>> >>> >>> It's fast and robust. A number of folks are using it including >>> some people in industry. So it actually works as opposed to just >>> a prototype. >> >> I like that. >> C++ is so much a hell. A friend of mine tried CDT and the code is >> really strange (you have to walk several structure to go from a >> method to its class). >> >> Stef >

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Fwd: A qustion about srcML
by Stéphane Ducasse 14 May '08

14 May '08

Begin forwarded message: > From: "Jonathan I. Maletic, Ph.D." <jmaletic(a)cs.kent.edu> > Date: May 13, 2008 6:08:52 PM CEDT > To: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>, Michael Collard <collard(a)cs.kent.edu > > > Subject: Re: A qustion about srcML > > Stef, > > We markup up down to the identifier level. But expressions are not > marked completely. That is identifiers in expressions are marked > but the entire AST for the expression is not done. So all parameter > lists are marked etc. > > Otherwise, everything else is marked up including preprocessor > statements, templates, and comments. Nothing is removed from the > original code code. You can get the exact original code back > including whitespace. > > Does this help? > > It's fast and robust. A number of folks are using it including some > people in industry. So it actually works as opposed to just a > prototype. > > Jonathan > > Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> Hi john >> >> I wanted to know what srcML extract exactly from languages. Do you >> have a description somewhere. >> This was not obvious from the homepage. >> >> Stef >> >

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famoosr deadline - may 15
by Tudor Girba 10 May '08

10 May '08

There are 5 days left until the deadline of FAMOOSr 2008: http://moose.unibe.ch/events/famoosr2008 We are looking for new ideas (2 page) and experience reports (4 pages) related to Moose, FAMIX and reengineering in general. The contributions can be either theoretical or practical and it can be academic or industry oriented. The ultimate goal is to spawn a discussion regarding the current and future directions in Moose, FAMIX and reengineering. FAMOOSr organizers

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Porting Moose to Squeak
by pascal.vollmer＠nexgo.de 10 May '08

10 May '08

Hi Doru, if I can help after the Dojo with documentation, Q&A, testing or coding, let me know. I could spend about 4 hours a week for the next 3 months. cu Pascal Vollmer Pascal Vollmer Email: pascal.vollmer(a)ieee.org Jetzt komfortabel bei Arcor-Digital TV einsteigen: Mehr Happy Ends, mehr Herzschmerz, mehr Fernsehen! Erleben Sie 50 digitale TV Programme und optional 60 Pay TV Sender, einen elektronischen Programmführer mit Movie Star Bewertungen von TV Movie. Außerdem, aktuelle Filmhits und spannende Dokus in der Arcor-Videothek. Infos unter www.arcor.de/tv

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Eysee and VW 7.6
by Maarten Mostert 10 May '08

10 May '08

Hi everebody, I am new here and wanted to know if anyone knows about the status of Eysee on VW7.6 Best regards, @+Maarten,

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moose dojo - may 22-23
by Tudor Girba 09 May '08

09 May '08

Hi, We will organize a Moose Dojo during May 22-23 http://moose.unibe.ch/events/2008-04-22-dojo This dojo will be focused on one single topic: --- Porting Moose to Squeak --- To make the dojo effective, I am compiling a list of tasks that should be addressed. The goal is not to complete the port, but rather to explore as many porting problems as possible and to identify an interested team for the effort. If you are interested in participating, please let me know what you would like to work on. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "No matter how many recipes we'll know, we'll still value a chef."

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