30 Jun
2007
30 Jun
'07
10:24 a.m.
Hi dear Moose/Mondrian experts :-)
since we discussed usage of Mondrian at Squeak day last October I
assume there is much work done. I have not tracked the mailinglist
the last months. So today, I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+
+ Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator
parser and TCL).
Which Moose/Mondrian version I should use as an simple user ?
Regards
Hans
30 Jun
30 Jun
11:32 a.m.
Hi Hans,
Nice to hear from you.
To use Moose/Mondrian:
- get VW 7.5
- connect to scgStore
- setup your image to load the latest development prerequisites (in
the settings menu / prerequisites)
- load Moose Config
This gets you the latest version of the MooseSuite.
Cheers,
Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
Hi dear Moose/Mondrian experts :-)
since we discussed usage of Mondrian at Squeak day last October I
assume there is much work done. I have not tracked the mailinglist
the last months. So today, I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+
+ Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator
parser and TCL).
Which Moose/Mondrian version I should use as an simple user ?
Regards
Hans
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4:29 p.m.
Hi,
Am 30.06.2007 um 11:32 schrieb Tudor Girba:
Hi Hans,
Nice to hear from you.
To use Moose/Mondrian:
- get VW 7.5
- connect to scgStore
- setup your image to load the latest development prerequisites (in
the settings menu / prerequisites)
- load Moose Config
Is 7.5 is necessary ? (that's not a problem, just for interest)
This gets you the latest version of the MooseSuite.
Great. And yes, it was my plan to share my SourceNavigator export
script, of course. Its not finished yet and at the moment it is
optimized for my Fortran stuff. I think it will took the whole july
until it will have all things in which I want.
Mondrian must then loaded separatly, rigtht ?
Greetings
Hans
Cheers,
Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
Hi dear Moose/Mondrian experts :-)
since we discussed usage of Mondrian at Squeak day last October I
assume there is much work done. I have not tracked the mailinglist
the last months. So today, I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+
+ Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator
parser and TCL).
Which Moose/Mondrian version I should use as an simple user ?
Regards
Hans
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4:44 p.m.
Dear Hans,
Is 7.5 is necessary ? (that's not a problem, just
for interest)
Yes, you must use 7.5
Moose could run fine with 7.4 as well, but since Cincom does not
document changes between versions properly, Moose does not waste
energy in the pains of backward compatibility.
I'd really love to have Javadoc for VW Smalltalk, with its @since tag!
cheers,
AA
1 Jul
1 Jul
12:28 p.m.
Hi Hans,
Mondrian will be loaded when you load Moose Config. There are two
bundles: MondrianDevelopment (the engine), and MondrianPaintings
(examples and applications)
Cheers,
Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Hans N Beck wrote:
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"Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
This gets you
the latest version of the MooseSuite.
Great. And yes, it was my plan to share my SourceNavigator export
script, of course. Its not finished yet and at the moment it is
optimized for my Fortran stuff. I think it will took the whole july
until it will have all things in which I want.
Mondrian must then loaded separatly, rigtht ?
30 Jun
30 Jun
11:48 a.m.
Hi again,
That is interesting. There are some other people that work on an
exporter based on SourceNavigator (for example, Bart :)).
Would you like to share your exporter?
In any case, let us know if you encounter problems with loading the
MSE files into Moose.
Cheers,
Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+
+ Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator
parser and TCL).
--
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"It is not what we do that matters, it is how we do it."
2 Jul
2 Jul
8:40 a.m.
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 11:48 +0200, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi again,
That is interesting. There are some other people that work on an
exporter based on SourceNavigator (for example, Bart :)).
That's right. At this moment, we focus on exporters for C++ and Java
based upon SN's parsers. I added a FAQ to our FETCH website
(http://www.lore.ua.ac.be/Research/Artefacts/fetch/) explaining how and
why we build upon SN. Feel free to ask me about it.
Doru: are you aware of a COBOL importer for Moose?
greetings,
Bart
Would you like to share your exporter?
In any case, let us know if you encounter problems with loading the
MSE files into Moose.
Cheers,
Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
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Lab On Reengineering
Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science
University of Antwerp
Office location: CMI - G.2.22
Office phone: +32 3 265 34 05
URL: http://www.win.ua.ac.be/~bvromp
I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+
+ Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator
parser and TCL).
--
www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba
www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba/blog/
"It is not what we do that matters, it is how we do it."
9:14 a.m.
New subject: SN Export
Hi,
Am 02.07.2007 um 08:40 schrieb Bart Van Rompaey:
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 11:48 +0200, Tudor Girba wrote:
At the page mentioned above I've read that Moose doesn't support
CDIF. Is it true that Moose can not read FAMIX/CDIF anymore ?
For the moment, I only have one question: do you know if SN provide
information about where a method/function ends ? As far as I know, it
only provides line/column of the beginning. Of course one could
calculate it, but.... :-)
Greetings
Hans
Hi again,
That is interesting. There are some other people that work on an
exporter based on SourceNavigator (for example, Bart :)).
That's right. At this moment, we focus on exporters for C++ and Java
based upon SN's parsers. I added a FAQ to our FETCH website
(http://www.lore.ua.ac.be/Research/Artefacts/fetch/) explaining how
and
why we build upon SN. Feel free to ask me about it.
9:45 a.m.
New subject: SN Export
Hi Hans,
It is true that Moose no longer supports CDIF. But, Bart said they
are interested in working on an MSE export. this is an excerpt from
their webpage:
"The Moose environment doesn't support CDIF anymore, but uses MSE
now. When are you going to support this format? We're working on it.
Expect support in the next release"
Cheers,
Doru
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
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www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba/blog/
"Being happy is a matter of choice."
That's
right. At this moment, we focus on exporters for C++ and Java
based upon SN's parsers. I added a FAQ to our FETCH website
(http://www.lore.ua.ac.be/Research/Artefacts/fetch/) explaining how
and
why we build upon SN. Feel free to ask me about it.
At the page mentioned above I've read that Moose doesn't support
CDIF. Is it true that Moose can not read FAMIX/CDIF anymore ?
10:12 a.m.
New subject: SN Export
Hi,
ok, then I will switch :-) Fortunately I'm not sooo far that this
would be a great problem ....
Greetings
Hans
Am 02.07.2007 um 09:45 schrieb Tudor Girba:
Hi Hans,
It is true that Moose no longer supports CDIF. But, Bart said they
are interested in working on an MSE export. this is an excerpt
from their webpage:
"The Moose environment doesn't support CDIF anymore, but uses MSE
now. When are you going to support this format? We're working on
it. Expect support in the next release"
Cheers,
Doru
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
--
www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba
www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba/blog/
"Being happy is a matter of choice."
That's right. At this moment, we focus on exporters for C++ and Java
based upon SN's parsers. I added a FAQ to our FETCH website
(http://www.lore.ua.ac.be/Research/Artefacts/fetch/) explaining how
and
why we build upon SN. Feel free to ask me about it.
At the page mentioned above I've read that Moose doesn't support
CDIF. Is it true that Moose can not read FAMIX/CDIF anymore ?
10:04 a.m.
New subject: SN Export
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:14 +0200, Hans N Beck wrote:
Hi,
Am 02.07.2007 um 08:40 schrieb Bart Van Rompaey:
...
At the page mentioned above I've read that Moose doesn't support
CDIF. Is it true that Moose can not read FAMIX/CDIF anymore ?
For the moment, I only have one question: do you know if SN provide
information about where a method/function ends ? As far as I know, it
only provides line/column of the beginning. Of course one could
calculate it, but.... :-)
SN does not report where methods/functions end. Rather, we use the
metrics tool CCCC (cccc.sourceforge.net) to complement SN's fact base
with size and complexity metrics.
Bart.
Greetings
Hans
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University of Antwerp
Office location: CMI - G.2.22
Office phone: +32 3 265 34 05
URL: http://www.win.ua.ac.be/~bvromp
9:42 a.m.
Hi Bart,
I am not aware of anyone working on a COBOL parser.
Cheers,
Doru
On Jul 2, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Bart Van Rompaey wrote:
are you aware of a COBOL importer for Moose?
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