Hi dear Moose/Mondrian experts :-)
since we discussed usage of Mondrian at Squeak day last October I assume there is much work done. I have not tracked the mailinglist the last months. So today, I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+ + Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator parser and TCL).
Which Moose/Mondrian version I should use as an simple user ?
Regards
Hans
Hi Hans,
Nice to hear from you.
To use Moose/Mondrian: - get VW 7.5 - connect to scgStore - setup your image to load the latest development prerequisites (in the settings menu / prerequisites) - load Moose Config
This gets you the latest version of the MooseSuite.
Cheers, Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
Hi dear Moose/Mondrian experts :-)
since we discussed usage of Mondrian at Squeak day last October I assume there is much work done. I have not tracked the mailinglist the last months. So today, I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+
- Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator
parser and TCL).
Which Moose/Mondrian version I should use as an simple user ?
Regards
Hans
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Hi,
Am 30.06.2007 um 11:32 schrieb Tudor Girba:
Hi Hans,
Nice to hear from you.
To use Moose/Mondrian:
- get VW 7.5
- connect to scgStore
- setup your image to load the latest development prerequisites (in
the settings menu / prerequisites)
- load Moose Config
Is 7.5 is necessary ? (that's not a problem, just for interest)
This gets you the latest version of the MooseSuite.
Great. And yes, it was my plan to share my SourceNavigator export script, of course. Its not finished yet and at the moment it is optimized for my Fortran stuff. I think it will took the whole july until it will have all things in which I want.
Mondrian must then loaded separatly, rigtht ?
Greetings
Hans
Cheers, Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
Hi dear Moose/Mondrian experts :-)
since we discussed usage of Mondrian at Squeak day last October I assume there is much work done. I have not tracked the mailinglist the last months. So today, I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+
- Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator
parser and TCL).
Which Moose/Mondrian version I should use as an simple user ?
Regards
Hans
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Dear Hans,
Is 7.5 is necessary ? (that's not a problem, just for interest)
Yes, you must use 7.5
Moose could run fine with 7.4 as well, but since Cincom does not document changes between versions properly, Moose does not waste energy in the pains of backward compatibility.
I'd really love to have Javadoc for VW Smalltalk, with its @since tag!
cheers, AA
Hi Hans,
Mondrian will be loaded when you load Moose Config. There are two bundles: MondrianDevelopment (the engine), and MondrianPaintings (examples and applications)
Cheers, Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Hans N Beck wrote:
This gets you the latest version of the MooseSuite.
Great. And yes, it was my plan to share my SourceNavigator export script, of course. Its not finished yet and at the moment it is optimized for my Fortran stuff. I think it will took the whole july until it will have all things in which I want.
Mondrian must then loaded separatly, rigtht ?
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"Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."
Hi again,
That is interesting. There are some other people that work on an exporter based on SourceNavigator (for example, Bart :)).
Would you like to share your exporter?
In any case, let us know if you encounter problems with loading the MSE files into Moose.
Cheers, Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+
- Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator
parser and TCL).
-- www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba/blog/
"It is not what we do that matters, it is how we do it."
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 11:48 +0200, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi again,
That is interesting. There are some other people that work on an exporter based on SourceNavigator (for example, Bart :)).
That's right. At this moment, we focus on exporters for C++ and Java based upon SN's parsers. I added a FAQ to our FETCH website (http://www.lore.ua.ac.be/Research/Artefacts/fetch/) explaining how and why we build upon SN. Feel free to ask me about it.
Doru: are you aware of a COBOL importer for Moose?
greetings, Bart
Would you like to share your exporter?
In any case, let us know if you encounter problems with loading the MSE files into Moose.
Cheers, Doru
On Jun 30, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
I have to visualize some Fortran 77 and C+
- Code. Assume that I have a FAMIX file (done by Sourcenavigator
parser and TCL).
-- www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba/blog/
"It is not what we do that matters, it is how we do it."
Hi,
Am 02.07.2007 um 08:40 schrieb Bart Van Rompaey:
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 11:48 +0200, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi again,
That is interesting. There are some other people that work on an exporter based on SourceNavigator (for example, Bart :)).
That's right. At this moment, we focus on exporters for C++ and Java based upon SN's parsers. I added a FAQ to our FETCH website (http://www.lore.ua.ac.be/Research/Artefacts/fetch/) explaining how and why we build upon SN. Feel free to ask me about it.
At the page mentioned above I've read that Moose doesn't support CDIF. Is it true that Moose can not read FAMIX/CDIF anymore ?
For the moment, I only have one question: do you know if SN provide information about where a method/function ends ? As far as I know, it only provides line/column of the beginning. Of course one could calculate it, but.... :-)
Greetings
Hans
Hi Hans,
It is true that Moose no longer supports CDIF. But, Bart said they are interested in working on an MSE export. this is an excerpt from their webpage:
"The Moose environment doesn't support CDIF anymore, but uses MSE now. When are you going to support this format? We're working on it. Expect support in the next release"
Cheers, Doru
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
That's right. At this moment, we focus on exporters for C++ and Java based upon SN's parsers. I added a FAQ to our FETCH website (http://www.lore.ua.ac.be/Research/Artefacts/fetch/) explaining how and why we build upon SN. Feel free to ask me about it.
At the page mentioned above I've read that Moose doesn't support CDIF. Is it true that Moose can not read FAMIX/CDIF anymore ?
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"Being happy is a matter of choice."
Hi,
ok, then I will switch :-) Fortunately I'm not sooo far that this would be a great problem ....
Greetings
Hans
Am 02.07.2007 um 09:45 schrieb Tudor Girba:
Hi Hans,
It is true that Moose no longer supports CDIF. But, Bart said they are interested in working on an MSE export. this is an excerpt from their webpage:
"The Moose environment doesn't support CDIF anymore, but uses MSE now. When are you going to support this format? We're working on it. Expect support in the next release"
Cheers, Doru
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Hans N Beck wrote:
That's right. At this moment, we focus on exporters for C++ and Java based upon SN's parsers. I added a FAQ to our FETCH website (http://www.lore.ua.ac.be/Research/Artefacts/fetch/) explaining how and why we build upon SN. Feel free to ask me about it.
At the page mentioned above I've read that Moose doesn't support CDIF. Is it true that Moose can not read FAMIX/CDIF anymore ?
-- www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba/blog/
"Being happy is a matter of choice."
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:14 +0200, Hans N Beck wrote:
Hi,
Am 02.07.2007 um 08:40 schrieb Bart Van Rompaey:
...
At the page mentioned above I've read that Moose doesn't support CDIF. Is it true that Moose can not read FAMIX/CDIF anymore ?
For the moment, I only have one question: do you know if SN provide information about where a method/function ends ? As far as I know, it only provides line/column of the beginning. Of course one could calculate it, but.... :-)
SN does not report where methods/functions end. Rather, we use the metrics tool CCCC (cccc.sourceforge.net) to complement SN's fact base with size and complexity metrics.
Bart.
Greetings
Hans
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