14 Apr
2011
14 Apr
'11
10:14 p.m.
I lost all my work on RPackage of yesterday - I cannot find the changes and the packages I
saved are corrupted
and now I would like to restart to load from a given version
but the ConfigurationOfRPackage
ConfigurationOfRPackage-StephaneDucasse.10
version10: spec
<version: '1.0' imports: #('1.0-baseline' )>
spec for: #'common' do: [
spec blessing: #'release'.
spec description: 'New version'.
spec author: 'AlexandreBergel'.
spec timestamp: '2/18/2011 12:53'.
spec
package: 'SystemAnnouncements' with:
'SystemAnnouncements-cyrilledelaunay.36';
package: 'RPackage-Core' with: 'RPackage-Core-AlexandreBergel.66';
package: 'RPackage-Tests' with: 'RPackage-Tests-cyrilledelaunay.26';
package: 'RPackage-UI' with: 'RPackage-UI-FernandoOlivero.16';
package: 'RPackage-SystemIntegration' with:
'RPackage-SystemIntegration-cyrilledelaunay.50'. ].
now when I do
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
is telling to me that there is no symbolic version and I do not get it.
I'm lost and really frustrated.
Stef
14 Apr
14 Apr
10:19 p.m.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote:
I lost all my work on RPackage of yesterday - I cannot
find the changes and
the packages I saved are corrupted
and now I would like to restart to load from a given version
but the ConfigurationOfRPackage
ConfigurationOfRPackage-StephaneDucasse.10
version10: spec
<version: '1.0' imports: #('1.0-baseline' )>
spec for: #'common' do: [
spec blessing: #'release'.
spec description: 'New version'.
spec author: 'AlexandreBergel'.
spec timestamp: '2/18/2011 12:53'.
spec
package: 'SystemAnnouncements' with:
'SystemAnnouncements-cyrilledelaunay.36';
package: 'RPackage-Core' with:
'RPackage-Core-AlexandreBergel.66';
package: 'RPackage-Tests' with:
'RPackage-Tests-cyrilledelaunay.26';
package: 'RPackage-UI' with:
'RPackage-UI-FernandoOlivero.16';
package: 'RPackage-SystemIntegration' with:
'RPackage-SystemIntegration-cyrilledelaunay.50'. ].
now when I do
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
Becasuse you should not use symbols since they are for symbolic versions.
Do: ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: '1.0'
instead.
Chees
is telling to me that there is no symbolic version and I do not get it.
I'm lost and really frustrated.
Stef
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11:24 p.m.
now when I do
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
is telling to me that there is no symbolic version and I do not get it.
Instead, you should do:
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: '1.0'
#'1.0' vs '1.0'
Alexandre
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10:28 p.m.
I did not know about this convention. I find this design to be unnecessarily confusing.
Why is this needed? Why not use strings / symbols interchangeable?
Cheers,
Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:24, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
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"Some battles are better lost than fought."
now when I do
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
is telling to me that there is no symbolic version and I do not get it.
Instead, you should do:
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: '1.0'
#'1.0' vs '1.0'
Alexandre
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10:32 p.m.
New subject: [Metacello] Re: Re: help help help
thanks doru
]
On Apr 14, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
I did not know about this convention. I find this
design to be unnecessarily confusing.
Why is this needed? Why not use strings / symbols interchangeable?
Cheers,
Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:24, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
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www.tudorgirba.com
"Some battles are better lost than fought."
now when
I do
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
is telling to me that there is no symbolic version and I do not get it.
Instead, you should do:
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: '1.0'
#'1.0' vs '1.0'
Alexandre
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11:32 p.m.
New subject: [Metacello] Re: Re: help help help
I mentioned something similar to this a few months ago. The reason is primarily for making
legacy configuration work.
Alexandre
On 14 Apr 2011, at 16:28, Tudor Girba wrote:
I did not know about this convention. I find this
design to be unnecessarily confusing.
Why is this needed? Why not use strings / symbols interchangeable?
Cheers,
Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:24, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
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www.tudorgirba.com
"Some battles are better lost than fought."
--
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Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
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now when
I do
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
is telling to me that there is no symbolic version and I do not get it.
Instead, you should do:
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: '1.0'
#'1.0' vs '1.0'
Alexandre
--
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10:34 p.m.
New subject: [Metacello] Re: Re: help help help
I still do not understand why symbolic versions cannot be treated like normal versions (I
argued for this before :)). Their name should be unique within the overall versions
anyway, so I do not see where the compatibility would break.
Cheers,
Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:32, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I mentioned something similar to this a few months
ago. The reason is primarily for making legacy configuration work.
Alexandre
On 14 Apr 2011, at 16:28, Tudor Girba wrote:
--
www.tudorgirba.com
"No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef."
I did not know about this convention. I find this
design to be unnecessarily confusing.
Why is this needed? Why not use strings / symbols interchangeable?
Cheers,
Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:24, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
--
www.tudorgirba.com
"Some battles are better lost than fought."
--
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
now when
I do
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
is telling to me that there is no symbolic version and I do not get it.
Instead, you should do:
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: '1.0'
#'1.0' vs '1.0'
Alexandre
--
_,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
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10:49 p.m.
New subject: [Metacello] Re: Re: help help help
Could you point me to the original mail where you argued for this?
From this thread I cannot tell (I know, I guess I am just dense:) what
the problem is nor what the proposed solution would be, so I cannot
comment without some more context...
It's quite possible that I missed the point the last time around, so
you'll have to start at the beginning of this conversation to bring me
into the loop:)
Dale
On 04/14/2011 01:34 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
I still do not understand why symbolic versions cannot
be treated
like normal versions (I argued for this before :)). Their name should
be unique within the overall versions anyway, so I do not see where
the compatibility would break.
Cheers, Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:32, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I mentioned something similar to this a few
months ago. The reason
is primarily for making legacy configuration work.
Alexandre
On 14 Apr 2011, at 16:28, Tudor Girba wrote:
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef."
I did not know about this convention. I find this
design to be
unnecessarily confusing.
Why is this needed? Why not use strings / symbols
interchangeable?
Cheers, Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:24, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
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Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
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> now when I do
>
> ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
>
> is telling to me that there is no symbolic version and I do
> not get it.
Instead, you should do: ConfigurationOfRPackage project load:
'1.0'
#'1.0' vs '1.0'
Alexandre
-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre
Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
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11:09 p.m.
New subject: [Metacello] Re: Re: help help help
Hi,
On 14 Apr 2011, at 22:49, Dale Henrichs wrote:
Could you point me to the original mail where you
argued for this?
I would have to look for it, so better stat afresh :)
From this thread I cannot tell (I know, I guess I am
just dense:) what the problem is nor what the proposed solution would be, so I cannot
comment without some more context...
It's quite possible that I missed the point the last time around, so you'll have
to start at the beginning of this conversation to bring me into the loop:)
The whole current discussion started from the realization that:
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0' --> looks for a symbolic version
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: '1.0' --> looks for a regular version
I said that this is confusing, and I believe it does not have to be like that if symbolic
versions are treated the same as regular versions.
Cheers,
Doru
Dale
On 04/14/2011 01:34 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
--
www.tudorgirba.com
"Live like you mean it."
I still do not understand why symbolic versions
cannot be treated
like normal versions (I argued for this before :)). Their name should
be unique within the overall versions anyway, so I do not see where
the compatibility would break.
Cheers, Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:32, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
I mentioned something similar to this a few
months ago. The reason
is primarily for making legacy configuration work.
Alexandre
On 14 Apr 2011, at 16:28, Tudor Girba wrote:
-- www.tudorgirba.com
"No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef."
I did not know about this convention. I find this
design to be
unnecessarily confusing.
Why is this needed? Why not use strings / symbols
interchangeable?
Cheers, Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:24, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>> now when I do
>>
>> ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
>>
>> is telling to me that there is no symbolic version and I do
>> not get it.
>
>
>
> Instead, you should do: ConfigurationOfRPackage project load:
> '1.0'
>
> #'1.0' vs '1.0'
>
> Alexandre
>
> -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre
> Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
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15 Apr
15 Apr
12:06 a.m.
New subject: [Metacello] Re: Re: help help help
On 04/14/2011 02:09 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi,
On 14 Apr 2011, at 22:49, Dale Henrichs wrote:
FWIW, I intended for symbolic versions to be in a separate namespace, so
that #stable, #bleedingEdge, #development and any other symbolic
versions wouldn't inadvertently collide with a literal version of the
same name.
Symbolic versions are defined differently and mean something different
from literal versions, so I wanted a user to be able to look at a load
expression and know that if she saw something that looked like this:
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'
That she would not be surprised when the `ConfigurationOfRPackage
project currentVersion` answered '1.0-beta.28.3' and not #'1.0'.
So when someone gets the error 'Symbolic version not found' when they
try to run `ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0'`, I say that it
is doing exactly what it should be doing ...
With that said, I don't deny that it is confusing, but really not any
more confustion than getting the error 'Version not found' when trying
to run the following expression `ConfigurationOfRPackage project load:
'1,0'`...There's a typo in the expression and it would be nice if the
error said, "you've put a #, instead of $. in the version name"...
Finally, I think that the distinction between symbolic versions and
literal versions will be much more obvious in the MetacelloBrowser and
typing errors won't be the primary issue...
Dale
Could you point me to the original mail where you
argued for this?
I would have to look for it, so better stat afresh :)
From this thread I cannot tell (I know, I guess
I am just dense:) what the problem is nor what the proposed solution would be, so I cannot
comment without some more context...
It's quite possible that I missed the point the last time around, so you'll have
to start at the beginning of this conversation to bring me into the loop:)
The whole current discussion started from the realization that:
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: #'1.0' --> looks for a symbolic
version
ConfigurationOfRPackage project load: '1.0' --> looks for a regular version
I said that this is confusing, and I believe it does not have to be like that if symbolic
versions are treated the same as regular versions.
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