Hi all,
after the conference I now tried out Moose for the very first time and it works more or less in our productive 7.5 image.
I got very helpful diagrams from it - it's a great inspiring platform, thanks a lot for your efforts ...
On Aug 6, 2008, at 10:03 PM, Steffen Märcker wrote:
I've followed the download instructions, but installing with via the "MooseSuiteLoader parcel" and via Store as well failed. Some parcels, namely Clustering couldn't be loaded. Platform: VW 7.6 NC on Windows
I had similar problems yesterday (same with full productive 7.5 AND fresh 7.6 nc):
Errors on installing Moose Suite by the Loader
************************************************************************ * 1) on loading LinearAlgebra (2.1.78,matter) from HapaxDevelopment ************************************************************************
a Dialog opens: "A problem was detected. Try again"
I saw that some False-Object instead of a Source Object was asked for its #comment and raised a messageNotUnderstood
So, I tried again... ************************************************************************ * 2) on loading ChroniaDevelopment (0.190, matter) from Clustering ************************************************************************
Warning: Package "Clustering" cannot be loaded.
The following classes cannot be loaded because their superclasses are neither in the image nor in the package being loaded: DistanceSquare (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) CorrelationVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Vector) ClusteringData (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) VectorItem (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.VectorDecorator) ClusteringVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.ArrayVector)
So, I tried again... ************************************************************************ * 3) Warning: Package "SmallDudeUtils" cannot be loaded ************************************************************************
The following classes cannot be loaded because their superclasses are neither in the image nor in the package being loaded: BooleanSymetricMatrix (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) BooleanMatrix (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Matrix) BooleanVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Vector)
************************************************************************ * 4) After trying again it loaded OK ************************************************************************
Now it works, but I cannot use system browsers any more due to steady "key not found" messages. By example, the icon Image at #matrix16x16 is missing in the 7.5 commercial.
The model doesn't understand some messages like #allDuplicates - is this a bug or just unfinished work?
************************************************************************ * 5) usage convenience question ************************************************************************
Well, as I'm not using a FAST computer, I shouldn't complain, but is there a possibility to sort of faster "reuse" the MooseSuite - perhaps as a file out - from one productive image to another? The whole Suite does not load quicker than half an hour and that's in addition to our productive application which loads half an hour as well.
If this is not possible, than perhaps somebody had tried sort of automation (ignoring "try again" dialogs) and nightly building a "refactoring image" with Moose included.
Thanks for any help and progress
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Hi Thomas,
How did you try to load? You should best use the instructions from here: http://moose.unibe.ch/download
As for the image, it's not really done yet, but we will make one available in the following weeks.
Cheers, Doru
On Oct 7, 2008, at 11:31 AM, Thomas Schrader wrote:
Hi all,
after the conference I now tried out Moose for the very first time and it works more or less in our productive 7.5 image.
I got very helpful diagrams from it - it's a great inspiring platform, thanks a lot for your efforts ...
On Aug 6, 2008, at 10:03 PM, Steffen Märcker wrote:
I've followed the download instructions, but installing with via the "MooseSuiteLoader parcel" and via Store as well failed. Some parcels, namely Clustering couldn't be loaded. Platform: VW 7.6 NC on Windows
I had similar problems yesterday (same with full productive 7.5 AND fresh 7.6 nc):
Errors on installing Moose Suite by the Loader
- on loading LinearAlgebra (2.1.78,matter) from HapaxDevelopment
a Dialog opens: "A problem was detected. Try again"
I saw that some False-Object instead of a Source Object was asked for its #comment and raised a messageNotUnderstood
So, I tried again...
- on loading ChroniaDevelopment (0.190, matter) from Clustering
Warning: Package "Clustering" cannot be loaded.
The following classes cannot be loaded because their superclasses are neither in the image nor in the package being loaded: DistanceSquare (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) CorrelationVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Vector) ClusteringData (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) VectorItem (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.VectorDecorator) ClusteringVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.ArrayVector)
So, I tried again...
- Warning: Package "SmallDudeUtils" cannot be loaded
The following classes cannot be loaded because their superclasses are neither in the image nor in the package being loaded: BooleanSymetricMatrix (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.SymetricMatrix) BooleanMatrix (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Matrix) BooleanVector (subclass of Root.Smalltalk.Hapax.Vector)
- After trying again it loaded OK
Now it works, but I cannot use system browsers any more due to steady "key not found" messages. By example, the icon Image at #matrix16x16 is missing in the 7.5 commercial.
The model doesn't understand some messages like #allDuplicates - is this a bug or just unfinished work?
- usage convenience question
Well, as I'm not using a FAST computer, I shouldn't complain, but is there a possibility to sort of faster "reuse" the MooseSuite - perhaps as a file out - from one productive image to another? The whole Suite does not load quicker than half an hour and that's in addition to our productive application which loads half an hour as well.
If this is not possible, than perhaps somebody had tried sort of automation (ignoring "try again" dialogs) and nightly building a "refactoring image" with Moose included.
Thanks for any help and progress
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