That is fine. No hurry. I see use for it for me down the track but I'm not there yet. I had just noticed this discrepancy while looking at something else. I've been imagining how you might achieve the hover over a line, especially considering the Ortho lines made up of three segments, or perhaps even more with a more sophisticated layout algorithm. Now to press my luck, perhaps as a separate issue, in the future I would like to be able to manually drag the line segments by their edge, by their control points, insert control points, etc (and then save the graph) - so I was wondering if line segments might be a first class object which ROLine held a collection of, rather than currently the last three lines of ROOrthoVerticalLineShape>>drawOn:for:. Actually I see that ROOrthoVerticalLineShape>>lineSegmentsFor: does refer to LineSegment, but is not integrated yet. cheers -ben Alexandre Bergel wrote: _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev