4 Nov
2010
4 Nov
'10
2:22 p.m.
BTW,
I was looking at this license stuff yesterday.
Since verveineJ is based on JDT and JDT uses the EPL (Eclipse Public
License), VerveineJ could be required to use the EPL also ...
"According to article 1(b) of the EPL, additions to the original work
may be licensed independently, including under a commercial license,
provided such additions are "separate modules of software" and do not
constitute a derivative work.[4][5] Changes and additions which do
constitute a derivative work must be licensed under the same terms and
conditions of the EPL, which includes the requirement to make source
code available"
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Public_License]
"The EPL is approved by the Open Source Initiative (OSI) and listed as
a "free software license" by the Free Software Foundation (FSF)"
any comment?
nicolas
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4 Nov
4 Nov
3:26 p.m.
If it's a plugin I think its safe to say it's a separate module. If you distribute
verveine together with parts of eclipse then it's going to get muddy I think. Better
talk to some licensing gurus at INRIA ?
On 04 Nov 2010, at 10:22, anquetil.nicolas(a)gmail.com wrote:
BTW,
I was looking at this license stuff yesterday.
Since verveineJ is based on JDT and JDT uses the EPL (Eclipse Public
License), VerveineJ could be required to use the EPL also ...
"According to article 1(b) of the EPL, additions to the original work
may be licensed independently, including under a commercial license,
provided such additions are "separate modules of software" and do not
constitute a derivative work.[4][5] Changes and additions which do
constitute a derivative work must be licensed under the same terms and
conditions of the EPL, which includes the requirement to make source
code available"
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Public_License]
"The EPL is approved by the Open Source Initiative (OSI) and listed as
a "free software license" by the Free Software Foundation (FSF)"
any comment?
nicolas
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3:36 p.m.
yes, we will ask a license guru.
Because it is not a plugin, but it includes JDT (it is actually
implemented as a sub-class of one Main class in JDT), and it requires
various Eclipse plugins (as jars) to run
nicolas
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
If it's a plugin I think its safe to say it's a separate module. If you
distribute verveine together with parts of eclipse then it's going to get muddy I
think. Better talk to some licensing gurus at INRIA ?
On 04 Nov 2010, at 10:22, anquetil.nicolas(a)gmail.com wrote:
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BTW,
I was looking at this license stuff yesterday.
Since verveineJ is based on JDT and JDT uses the EPL (Eclipse Public
License), VerveineJ could be required to use the EPL also ...
"According to article 1(b) of the EPL, additions to the original work
may be licensed independently, including under a commercial license,
provided such additions are "separate modules of software" and do not
constitute a derivative work.[4][5] Changes and additions which do
constitute a derivative work must be licensed under the same terms and
conditions of the EPL, which includes the requirement to make source
code available"
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Public_License]
"The EPL is approved by the Open Source Initiative (OSI) and listed as
a "free software license" by the Free Software Foundation (FSF)"
any comment?
nicolas
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19 Jan
11:26 p.m.
Hi Nicolas,
Any news on this topic?
Cheers,
Doru
On 4 Nov 2010, at 15:36, anquetil.nicolas(a)gmail.com wrote:
yes, we will ask a license guru.
Because it is not a plugin, but it includes JDT (it is actually
implemented as a sub-class of one Main class in JDT), and it requires
various Eclipse plugins (as jars) to run
nicolas
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote:
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If it's a plugin I think its safe to say it's a separate module. If you
distribute verveine together with parts of eclipse then it's going to get muddy I
think. Better talk to some licensing gurus at INRIA ?
On 04 Nov 2010, at 10:22, anquetil.nicolas(a)gmail.com wrote:
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev BTW,
I was looking at this license stuff yesterday.
Since verveineJ is based on JDT and JDT uses the EPL (Eclipse Public
License), VerveineJ could be required to use the EPL also ...
"According to article 1(b) of the EPL, additions to the original work
may be licensed independently, including under a commercial license,
provided such additions are "separate modules of software" and do not
constitute a derivative work.[4][5] Changes and additions which do
constitute a derivative work must be licensed under the same terms and
conditions of the EPL, which includes the requirement to make source
code available"
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Public_License]
"The EPL is approved by the Open Source Initiative (OSI) and listed as
a "free software license" by the Free Software Foundation (FSF)"
any comment?
nicolas
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20 Jan
4:02 p.m.
Nop :-(
I was thinking about it the other day.
As I already said VerveineJ uses JDT
JDT uses the Eclipse Public License (EPL).
EPL is a free software licence (accepted as such by FSF and OSI)
It is apparently similar to BSD
EPL is not compatible with GPL (for information)
From reading http://www.eclipse.org/legal/eplfaq.php
I understood that:
- We cannot change the licence of JDT inside verveineJ if we distribute source code
- Maybe we could if we distribute only compiled code ?!?
But I still don't know what to do if we distribute our code which uses compiled JDT
code :-(
I see two solutions:
- licence VerveineJ under the EPL, that would probably be the simplest solution
- licence verveinJ under some other free licence as BSD or MIT. We know it cannot be GPL
at least.
I personaly do not really mind one or the other. Unless somebody as something against it,
I would propose to go for the simplest solution (EPL) and be done with it.
nicolas
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Envoyé: Mercredi 19 Janvier 2011 23:26:12
Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: verveine licensing
Hi Nicolas,
Any news on this topic?
Cheers,
Doru
On 4 Nov 2010, at 15:36, anquetil.nicolas(a)gmail.com wrote:
yes, we will ask a license guru.
Because it is not a plugin, but it includes JDT (it is actually
implemented as a sub-class of one Main class in JDT), and it
requires
various Eclipse plugins (as jars) to run
nicolas
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl>
wrote:
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If it's a plugin I think its safe to say it's a separate module. If
you distribute verveine together with parts of eclipse then it's
going to get muddy I think. Better talk to some licensing gurus at
INRIA ?
On 04 Nov 2010, at 10:22, anquetil.nicolas(a)gmail.com wrote:
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Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch
https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev BTW,
I was looking at this license stuff yesterday.
Since verveineJ is based on JDT and JDT uses the EPL (Eclipse
Public
License), VerveineJ could be required to use the EPL also ...
"According to article 1(b) of the EPL, additions to the original
work
may be licensed independently, including under a commercial
license,
provided such additions are "separate modules of software" and do
not
constitute a derivative work.[4][5] Changes and additions which do
constitute a derivative work must be licensed under the same terms
and
conditions of the EPL, which includes the requirement to make
source
code available"
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eclipse_Public_License]
"The EPL is approved by the Open Source Initiative (OSI) and
listed as
a "free software license" by the Free Software Foundation (FSF)"
any comment?
nicolas
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Chile
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