19 Oct
2010
19 Oct
'10
12:26 p.m.
On 19 oct. 2010, at 11:48, Cyrille Delaunay wrote:
You can try with the moose-suite provided here:
http://www.moosetechnology.org/download.
I build a model from Merlin. Then export and import it. Normaly you should not be able to
open a SystemComplexity view.
I can't reproduce the problem with a latest dev.
Should the property be annoted with 'fame' pragmas, or is it better to modify the
exporter to take into account the current used pragmas
(<property:longName:description:>) ?
Problem is, before exporting the metric, you have to compute the value, and then it takes
a lot of time and the mse file gets quite big. Metrics used to be included in older mse,
but we exclude them since most of the time we can compute them again. Note that infusion
does export some metrics.
Now what we need is a way to select what we want to export in the mse. I think that an
incremental metamodel builder is the way to go. I don't want metrics to be included in
the default metamodel, there are too many of them.
2010/10/19 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
Hi Cyrille,
I cannot reproduce that. Could you send a small sample MSE, or at least point to which
model you try?
In any case, the exporter does not export the properties that are just marked with
<property:longName:description:> pragmas, although it would be nice if it would do
so.
Cheers,
Doru
On 19 Oct 2010, at 10:49, Cyrille Delaunay wrote:
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Hello,
I have a smalltalk moose-model, for which I can display SystemComplexity. All work fine.
Then I export it as MSE and then import it from the MSE file. When I try to reopen
System-complexity all seem to be broken (I have a red square).
Does that means that the model is not well exported ? Maybe some required properties are
not described by correct FAame-Pragmas, and are therefore not exported ?
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12:36 p.m.
New subject: systemComplexity on model imported from mse does not work
Hi,
On 19 Oct 2010, at 12:26, Simon Denier wrote:
I would say that the metrics that we want to have exported should be explicitly annotated
with Fame descriptions. This would be useful for things like lines of code or cyclomatic
complexity, which are primitive metrics that cannot be computed out of the model alone.
Cheers,
Doru
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On 19 oct. 2010, at 11:48, Cyrille Delaunay wrote:
I did exactly this and it works fine:
- import the package named Merlin
- export the model into merlin.mse
- import the model from merlin.mse
- spawn System Complexity on both all famixclasses, and on allmodelclasses and everything
works fine, except that there is no color.
You can try with the moose-suite provided here:
http://www.moosetechnology.org/download.
I build a model from Merlin. Then export and import it. Normaly you should not be able to
open a SystemComplexity view.
I can't reproduce the problem with a latest dev.
Should the property be annoted with 'fame' pragmas, or is it better to modify the
exporter to take into account the current used pragmas
(<property:longName:description:>) ?
Problem is, before exporting the metric, you have to compute the value, and then it takes
a lot of time and the mse file gets quite big. Metrics used to be included in older mse,
but we exclude them since most of the time we can compute them again. Note that infusion
does export some metrics.
Now what we need is a way to select what we want to export in the mse. I think that an
incremental metamodel builder is the way to go. I don't want metrics to be included in
the default metamodel, there are too many of them.
2010/10/19 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
Hi Cyrille,
I cannot reproduce that. Could you send a small sample MSE, or at least point to which
model you try?
In any case, the exporter does not export the properties that are just marked with
<property:longName:description:> pragmas, although it would be nice if it would do
so.
Cheers,
Doru
On 19 Oct 2010, at 10:49, Cyrille Delaunay wrote:
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I have a smalltalk moose-model, for which I can display SystemComplexity. All work fine.
Then I export it as MSE and then import it from the MSE file. When I try to reopen
System-complexity all seem to be broken (I have a red square).
Does that means that the model is not well exported ? Maybe some required properties are
not described by correct FAame-Pragmas, and are therefore not exported ?
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12:57 p.m.
New subject: systemComplexity on model imported from mse does not work
Ok, I know what is different :)
Here is how I import from mse (I'm sure this is not a good way to do it, but
this is at least possible in the menu:)) :
In the moosePanel:
=> I right-click on the model I just exported
=> select 'import/export'
=> click on 'import from mse' and select merlin.mse
=> close the moosePanel and re-open it.
=> the name of your model is now 'merlin', and the error happen on this
model.
Indeed, when I import from mse using the tool bar at the top of the
moosePanel, it generate a new model, and all work fine with it.
2010/10/19 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
Hi,
On 19 Oct 2010, at 12:26, Simon Denier wrote:
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On 19 oct. 2010, at 11:48, Cyrille Delaunay wrote:
> You can try with the moose-suite provided here:
http://www.moosetechnology.org/download.
> I build a model from Merlin. Then export and
import it. Normaly you
should not be able to open a SystemComplexity view.
I can't reproduce the problem with a latest dev.
I did exactly this and it works fine:
- import the package named Merlin
- export the model into merlin.mse
- import the model from merlin.mse
- spawn System Complexity on both all famixclasses, and on allmodelclasses
and everything works fine, except that there is no color.
>
> Should the property be annoted with 'fame' pragmas, or is it better to
modify the exporter to take into account the current used pragmas
(<property:longName:description:>) ?
Problem is, before exporting the metric, you have to compute the value,
and then
it takes a lot of time and the mse file gets quite big. Metrics
used to be included in older mse, but we exclude them since most of the time
we can compute them again. Note that infusion does export some metrics.
Now what we need is a way to select what we want to export in the mse. I
think
that an incremental metamodel builder is the way to go. I don't want
metrics to be included in the default metamodel, there are too many of them.
I would say that the metrics that we want to have exported should be
explicitly annotated with Fame descriptions. This would be useful for things
like lines of code or cyclomatic complexity, which are primitive metrics
that cannot be computed out of the model alone.
Cheers,
Doru
>
>
> 2010/10/19 Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com>
> Hi Cyrille,
>
> I cannot reproduce that. Could you send a small sample MSE, or at least
point
to which model you try?
>
> In any case, the exporter does not export the properties that are just
marked
with <property:longName:description:> pragmas, although it would be
nice if it would do so.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 19 Oct 2010, at 10:49, Cyrille Delaunay wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a smalltalk moose-model, for which I can display
SystemComplexity.
All work fine. Then I export it as MSE and then import it
from the MSE file. When I try to reopen System-complexity all seem to be
broken (I have a red square).
> > Does that means that the model is not
well exported ? Maybe some
required properties are not described by correct
FAame-Pragmas, and are
therefore not exported ?
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