9 Aug
2009
9 Aug
'09
6:02 p.m.
Hi guys
When I select an entity in the Moose Finder (realllly coool) and I
select evaluator self is bound to nil.
Is it normal?
Stef
9 Aug
9 Aug
6:26 p.m.
Hi Stef,
It is bound to nil only if you press Cmd+i or related shortcuts. That
happens because we did not know how to disable those shortcuts. This
is an issue:
http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=106
We will solve it, but for the moment if you want to inspect you have
to press Cmd+/. If you want to open in the next pane you have to press
Cmd+o.
Cheers,
Doru
On 9 Aug 2009, at 18:02, stephane ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
When I select an entity in the Moose Finder (realllly coool) and I
select evaluator self is bound to nil.
Is it normal?
Stef
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10:39 p.m.
why don't you rebind them?
The way shortcuts are dealt in pharo/squeak sucks.
We should investigate in bringing back to live and old package
(keymapper or keybinding).
Stef
On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi Stef,
It is bound to nil only if you press Cmd+i or related shortcuts.
That happens because we did not know how to disable those shortcuts.
This is an issue:
http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=106
We will solve it, but for the moment if you want to inspect you have
to press Cmd+/. If you want to open in the next pane you have to
press Cmd+o.
Cheers,
Doru
On 9 Aug 2009, at 18:02, stephane ducasse wrote:
Hi guys
When I select an entity in the Moose Finder (realllly coool) and I
select evaluator self is bound to nil.
Is it normal?
Stef
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10 Aug
10 Aug
12:03 a.m.
why don't you rebind them?
Because we did not know how to :). Of course, we will find out, but it
just was not obvious enough to get it done until now.
The way shortcuts are dealt in pharo/squeak sucks.
We should investigate in bringing back to live and old package
(keymapper or keybinding).
I do not think we need something that is global. All we want is a way
to get a text widget without getting shortcuts built in :).
Doru
Stef
On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
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Hi Stef,
It is bound to nil only if you press Cmd+i or related shortcuts.
That happens because we did not know how to disable those
shortcuts. This is an issue:
http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=106
We will solve it, but for the moment if you want to inspect you
have to press Cmd+/. If you want to open in the next pane you have
to press Cmd+o.
Cheers,
Doru
On 9 Aug 2009, at 18:02, stephane ducasse wrote:
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When I select an entity in the Moose Finder (realllly coool) and I
select evaluator self is bound to nil.
Is it normal?
Stef
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9:52 a.m.
why don't
you rebind them?
Because we did not know how to :). Of course, we will find out, but it just
was not obvious enough to get it done until now. I do not think we need something that is global. All
we want is a way to get
a text widget without getting shortcuts built in :).
What I love about Squeak/Pharo is that the shortcut bindings, for
example to browse a class, work in any text input box. This makes me
highly efficient to program and annoys me extremely for example in
VisualWorks. Being able to customize the bindings would be great,
however I think the defaults should be preserved.
Lukas
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10:06 a.m.
Hi
You override #doItReceiver (to bind self) and #doItContext (to bind
temps) in the model of your pluggable widget.
Ok, I see, but in the context of Glamour, but this will only let me
control the receiver and context. I would like to get full control
over the shortcuts. That is, if I don't want to get any Smalltalk
capability, I should not get it. Is this possible?
Sure, I like that too, but only when I am in the context of
programming. For an end-user tool, I like it less :). That is why I
would like to get control over the actions the user is allow to perform.
Cheers,
Doru
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why don't you rebind them?
Because we did not know how to :). Of course, we will find out, but
it just
was not obvious enough to get it done until now. I do not think
we need something that is global. All we want is a
way to get
a text widget without getting shortcuts built in :).
What I love about Squeak/Pharo is that the shortcut bindings, for
example to browse a class, work in any text input box. This makes me
highly efficient to program and annoys me extremely for example in
VisualWorks. Being able to customize the bindings would be great,
however I think the defaults should be preserved.
10:17 a.m.
2009/8/10 Tudor Girba <girba(a)iam.unibe.ch>ch>:
Hi
You override #doItReceiver (to bind self) and #doItContext (to bind
temps) in the model of your pluggable widget.
Ok, I see, but in the context of Glamour, but this will only let me control
the receiver and context. I would like to get full control over the
shortcuts. That is, if I don't want to get any Smalltalk capability, I
should not get it. Is this possible?
Not easily.
The central place of the keyboard binding dispatching is in
ParagraphEditor>>#dispatchOnCharacter:with: Unfortunately that is
about a dozen layers below your morphic text widget :-/
Lukas
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why don't you rebind them?
Because we did not know how to :). Of course, we will find out, but it
just
was not obvious enough to get it done until now.
11 Aug
11 Aug
11:24 a.m.
When I hacked in the system I saw that there was one classsVar or
somethig like that
shared by all the widgets. So if you wanted to customize the binding
for a given text it was awful
May be now I should have a look again (but this is so rusty).
Ohhhhh YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS I HATE this VW mode creeping atttitude.
I was talking for example for botsinc you want to have kids bindings
but only in kids workspace
not in your browser :)
Because we did not know how to :). Of course, we will find out, but
it just
was not obvious enough to get it done until now.
You override #doItReceiver (to bind self) and #doItContext (to bind
temps) in the model of your pluggable widget.
I do not think we need something that is global.
All we want is a
way to get
a text widget without getting shortcuts built in :).
What I love about Squeak/Pharo is that the shortcut bindings, for
example to browse a class, work in any text input box. This makes me
highly efficient to program and annoys me extremely for example in
VisualWorks. Being able to customize the bindings would be great,
however I think the defaults should be preserved.
Lukas
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http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
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4:43 p.m.
What I love
about Squeak/Pharo is that the shortcut bindings, for
example to browse a class, work in any text input box. This makes me
highly efficient to program and annoys me extremely for example in
VisualWorks.
Ohhhhh YYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSS I HATE this VW mode creeping atttitude.
I was talking for example for botsinc you want to have kids bindings
but only in kids workspace
not in your browser :)
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