14 Apr
2011
14 Apr
'11
5:24 p.m.
Hi,
I will work on a legacy (legacy means no test) Java project for several
weeks. Haven't done real Java for 10 years :)
So that's an opportunity for me to start learning/using Moose to dig into
this project.
I've followed the Moose book with Moose 4.3 to create the .mse using
infusion and then import it in Moose. This works, I can see models,
blueprints, ....
When I select a class in the Moose Panel, right-click Browse -> Source the
Moose Code Browser opens, but the source code is never displayed. Any idea ?
Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs>
Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st
14 Apr
14 Apr
6 p.m.
OK I found how to get the source code using JEAs Utilities > Try to fix file
anchors
Laurent.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, laurent laffont
<laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi,
I will work on a legacy (legacy means no test) Java project for several
weeks. Haven't done real Java for 10 years :)
So that's an opportunity for me to start learning/using Moose to dig into
this project.
I've followed the Moose book with Moose 4.3 to create the .mse using
infusion and then import it in Moose. This works, I can see models,
blueprints, ....
When I select a class in the Moose Panel, right-click Browse -> Source the
Moose Code Browser opens, but the source code is never displayed. Any idea ?
Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs <http://twitter.com/#!/lolgzs>
Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st
7:39 p.m.
Ok. This is cool to see you on the list
Alexandre
On 14 Apr 2011, at 12:00, laurent laffont wrote:
OK I found how to get the source code using JEAs
Utilities > Try to fix file anchors
Laurent.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
I will work on a legacy (legacy means no test) Java project for several weeks.
Haven't done real Java for 10 years :)
So that's an opportunity for me to start learning/using Moose to dig into this
project.
I've followed the Moose book with Moose 4.3 to create the .mse using infusion and
then import it in Moose. This works, I can see models, blueprints, ....
When I select a class in the Moose Panel, right-click Browse -> Source the Moose Code
Browser opens, but the source code is never displayed. Any idea ?
Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs
Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st
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10:08 p.m.
Hi Laurent,
Nice to see you around here :).
Here is how to set the root folder:
http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/smalldude/root-folder
Cheers,
Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 18:00, laurent laffont wrote:
OK I found how to get the source code using JEAs
Utilities > Try to fix file anchors
Laurent.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
I will work on a legacy (legacy means no test) Java project for several weeks.
Haven't done real Java for 10 years :)
So that's an opportunity for me to start learning/using Moose to dig into this
project.
I've followed the Moose book with Moose 4.3 to create the .mse using infusion and
then import it in Moose. This works, I can see models, blueprints, ....
When I select a class in the Moose Panel, right-click Browse -> Source the Moose Code
Browser opens, but the source code is never displayed. Any idea ?
Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs
Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st
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10:43 p.m.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Laurent,
Nice to see you around here :).
Here is how to set the root folder:
http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/smalldude/root-folder
Yes I've discoverd it just after.
May be you should talk about this root folder in section 4.3 ?
Some feedback from a Moose newbie after using it a couple of hours so may be
stupid remarks:
- Moose panel buttons don't have hint / help when the mouse is over
- I would like a legend explaining width / size / colors / layers in
blueprint (yes it's in the book but it would be easier to see it directly in
the blueprint)
- Famix*Group panes are not alphabetically sorted. For example on my project
there's 138 namespaces, 630 model classes, hard to look at it.
- When I select groups by entering a Smalltalk expression in the bottom
field (like '*unimarc*' match: self name asLowercase) it opens another Group
panel. May be nicer to stay in the same and show only matching elements.
- For me it's hard to distinguish little blue icons with C / M / N ... more
colors ?
- Too many right clicks
Indeed it looks powerful. I'll try to learn to use it .
Cheers,
Laurent.
Cheers,
Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 18:00, laurent laffont wrote:
OK I found how to get the source code using JEAs
Utilities > Try to fix
file anchors
Laurent.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, laurent laffont <
laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I will work on a legacy (legacy means no test) Java project for several
weeks.
Haven't done real Java for 10 years :)
So that's an opportunity for me to start learning/using Moose to dig into
this
project.
I've followed the Moose book with Moose 4.3 to create the .mse using
infusion
and then import it in Moose. This works, I can see models,
blueprints, ....
When I select a class in the Moose Panel, right-click Browse -> Source
the
Moose Code Browser opens, but the source code is never displayed. Any
idea ?
Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs
Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st
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11:03 p.m.
Hi,
On 14 Apr 2011, at 22:43, laurent laffont wrote:
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Tudor Girba
<tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Laurent,
Nice to see you around here :).
Here is how to set the root folder:
http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/smalldude/root-folder
Yes I've discoverd it just after.
May be you should talk about this root folder in section 4.3 ?
Yes, this part of the book is pretty much under construction.
Some feedback from a Moose newbie after using it a
couple of hours so may be stupid remarks:
- Moose panel buttons don't have hint / help when the mouse is over
There already is an issue for this:
http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=465
- I would like a legend explaining width / size /
colors / layers in blueprint (yes it's in the book but it would be easier to see it
directly in the blueprint)
We do not have a generic solution for this one yet :(.
- Famix*Group panes are not alphabetically sorted. For
example on my project there's 138 namespaces, 630 model classes, hard to look at it.
The problem is known, and it actually depends on the table widget:
http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=156
- When I select groups by entering a Smalltalk
expression in the bottom field (like '*unimarc*' match: self name asLowercase) it
opens another Group panel. May be nicer to stay in the same and show only matching
elements.
Not in the Moose Finder :). The Finder has a very simple pattern: every time you select
something you get it on the next pane.
In Glamour, you can set the bottom field to be a filter.
- For me it's hard to distinguish little blue
icons with C / M / N ... more colors ?
Is it because of the size of monitor, or are there other reasons? More colors would not
work well, because we can have multiple sets of icons for different meta-models (remember
that Moose is not only about FAMIX).
- Too many right clicks
The Moose Finder is nothing but a generic basic interface. It makes some generic actions
fast, and offers the rest via the menu.
If you have a certain interaction necessity, build your own tool that does exactly what
you want. This is the whole point of Moose.
Cheers,
Doru
Indeed it looks powerful. I'll try to learn to use
it .
Cheers,
Laurent.
Cheers,
Doru
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OK I found how to get the source code using JEAs
Utilities > Try to fix file anchors
Laurent.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
I will work on a legacy (legacy means no test) Java project for several weeks.
Haven't done real Java for 10 years :)
So that's an opportunity for me to start learning/using Moose to dig into this
project.
I've followed the Moose book with Moose 4.3 to create the .mse using infusion and
then import it in Moose. This works, I can see models, blueprints, ....
When I select a class in the Moose Panel, right-click Browse -> Source the Moose Code
Browser opens, but the source code is never displayed. Any idea ?
Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs
Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st
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15 Apr
15 Apr
12:01 a.m.
Hi,
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:03, Tudor Girba wrote:
This one is fixed now :)
Cheers,
Doru
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- Moose panel
buttons don't have hint / help when the mouse is over
There already is an issue for this:
http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=465
2:13 p.m.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On 14 Apr 2011, at 23:03, Tudor Girba wrote:
This one is fixed now :)
Thank you !
Laurent.
- Moose
panel buttons don't have hint / help when the mouse is over
There already is an issue for this:
http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=465
Cheers,
Doru
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14 Apr
10:45 p.m.
On 14 avr. 2011, at 22:08, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi Laurent,
Nice to see you around here :).
Here is how to set the root folder:
http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/smalldude/root-folder
I completely forgot this one. If you use the wizard, given that the source folder is
chosen from a smalltalk window, it could be set automatically.
@Laurent we need to meet in Grenoble or Annecy :)
Cheers,
Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 18:00, laurent laffont wrote:
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OK I found how to get the source code using JEAs
Utilities > Try to fix file anchors
Laurent.
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi,
I will work on a legacy (legacy means no test) Java project for several weeks.
Haven't done real Java for 10 years :)
So that's an opportunity for me to start learning/using Moose to dig into this
project.
I've followed the Moose book with Moose 4.3 to create the .mse using infusion and
then import it in Moose. This works, I can see models, blueprints, ....
When I select a class in the Moose Panel, right-click Browse -> Source the Moose Code
Browser opens, but the source code is never displayed. Any idea ?
Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs
Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st
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10:59 p.m.
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On 14 avr. 2011, at 22:08, Tudor Girba wrote:
Yes ! May be for a Moose coding-dojo with my local developer group ?
http://cara74.seasidehosting.st/
Laurent
Hi Laurent,
Nice to see you around here :).
Here is how to set the root folder:
http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/smalldude/root-folder
I completely forgot this one. If you use the wizard, given that the source
folder is chosen from a smalltalk window, it could be set automatically.
@Laurent we need to meet in Grenoble or Annecy :)
Cheers,
Doru
On 14 Apr 2011, at 18:00, laurent laffont wrote:
> OK I found how to get the source code using JEAs Utilities > Try to fix
file anchors
>
> Laurent.
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:24 PM, laurent laffont <
laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I will work on a legacy (legacy means no test) Java project for several
weeks.
Haven't done real Java for 10 years :)
>
> So that's an opportunity for me to start learning/using Moose to dig
into
this project.
>
> I've followed the Moose book with Moose 4.3 to create the .mse using
infusion and then import it in Moose. This works, I can see models,
blueprints, ....
>
> When I select a class in the Moose Panel, right-click Browse -> Source
the
Moose Code Browser opens, but the source code is never displayed. Any
idea ?
Laurent Laffont - @lolgzs
Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/
Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/
Developer group: http://cara74.seasidehosting.st
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