On 20 Feb 2018, at 22:32, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr&gt; wrote: When I did ConfigurationOfFASTCore loadDevelopment I get an error…. Why people do not understand that a class comment is COOOOOOL. Stef -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> http://www.synectique.eu <http://www.synectique.eu/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/> 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev

On 20 Feb 2018, at 22:54, Vincent Blondeau <Vincent.Blondeau(a)polytech-lille.net&gt; wrote: Hi Stef, You may want to use the CI image https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/FAST-On-Moose/ But, since nobody updated the application since a long time, it seems that a lot of tests is failing on the latest image... and I do not know the current state of it. Maybe Cyril does? If you want to use either FAST on Smalltalk or Java, you should use that: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTPharo/main ConfigurationOfFASTPharo loadDevelopment. http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTJava/main ConfigurationOfFASTJava loadDevelopment. And you have to use a Moose image too... It will not load on Pharo image at all... Vincent PS: if you give a bit of context of your error (image, error thrown), we could help you ;) Le 2018-02-20 22:34, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : > (ConfigurationOfFASTCore project version: '0.4') load > loads a really old version :((((( > > So frustrating. > > Stef > >> On 20 Feb 2018, at 22:32, Stéphane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr [1]> wrote: >> >> When I did >> >> ConfigurationOfFASTCore loadDevelopment I get an error…. >> >> Why people do not understand that a class comment is COOOOOOL. >> >> Stef >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> Stéphane Ducasse >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr [2] >> http://www.synectique.eu [3] / http://www.pharo.org [4] >> 03 59 35 87 52 >> Assistant: Julie Jonas >> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >> S. Ducasse - Inria >> 40, avenue Halley, >> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza >> >> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >> France >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch [5] >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr [6] > http://www.synectique.eu [7] / http://www.pharo.org [8] > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Julie Jonas > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France > > > Links: > ------ > [1] mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr > [2] http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/ > [3] http://www.synectique.eu/ > [4] http://www.pharo.org/ > [5] mailto:Moose-dev@list.inf.unibe.ch > [6] http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > [7] http://www.synectique.eu > [8] http://www.pharo.org _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi Stef, You may want to use the CI image https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/FAST-On-Moose/ <https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/FAST-On-Moose/>

But, since nobody updated the application since a long time, it seems that a lot of tests is failing on the latest image... and I do not know the current state of it. Maybe Cyril does? If you want to use either FAST on Smalltalk or Java, you should use that: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTPharo/main ConfigurationOfFASTPharo loadDevelopment. http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTJava/main ConfigurationOfFASTJava loadDevelopment. And you have to use a Moose image too... It will not load on Pharo image at all... Vincent PS: if you give a bit of context of your error (image, error thrown), we could help you ;) Le 2018-02-20 22:34, Stéphane Ducasse a écrit : > (ConfigurationOfFASTCore project version: '0.4') load > loads a really old version :((((( > > So frustrating. > > Stef > >> On 20 Feb 2018, at 22:32, Stéphane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr [1]> wrote: >> >> When I did >> >> ConfigurationOfFASTCore loadDevelopment I get an error…. >> >> Why people do not understand that a class comment is COOOOOOL. >> >> Stef >> >> -------------------------------------------- >> Stéphane Ducasse >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr [2] >> http://www.synectique.eu [3] / http://www.pharo.org [4] >> 03 59 35 87 52 >> Assistant: Julie Jonas >> FAX 03 59 57 78 50 >> TEL 03 59 35 86 16 >> S. Ducasse - Inria >> 40, avenue Halley, >> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza >> >> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 >> France >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch [5] >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr [6] > http://www.synectique.eu [7] / http://www.pharo.org [8] > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Julie Jonas > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France > > > Links: > ------ > [1] mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr > [2] http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/ > [3] http://www.synectique.eu/ > [4] http://www.pharo.org/ > [5] mailto:Moose-dev@list.inf.unibe.ch > [6] http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > [7] http://www.synectique.eu > [8] http://www.pharo.org _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 8:54 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr&gt; wrote: > Hi Stef, > > You may want to use the CI image > https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/FAST-On-Moose/ > > > I cannot execute this image with the launcher. > And I cannot execute on my mac. > Hi! At Synectique we depend on it with this snippet: project: 'FASTCore' with: [ spec className: #ConfigurationOfFASTCore; versionString: #development; repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTCore/main/' ]. So, I think this should work: Metacello new repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTCore/main/'; configuration: 'FASTCore'; version: #development; load For the state of FAST: Fast meta model was not valid because it had multiple opposites for some properties and in Moose 6 or 6.1 (I don't remember) a model validation was added because MooseQuery require a valide meta model. With Nicolas we worked on it to make FASTCore valid. There was at the top of the hierarchy a method #parentNode and multiple properties defining it as opposite, which is not valid for FAME. What we did is that instead of pointing #parentNode for multiple properties, we created, for each property, a new opposite property in the right subclass of FASTEntity and we reimplemented #parentNode to point this new property. At the end, we replaced the #parentNode at the top of the hierarchy by a subclass responsibility. To keep it was only for backward compatibility. We validated the changes with the tests of one of Synectique meta-model. Maybe the implementations for the other languages are still not valid but I did not had the knowledge nor the time to check it :(

Hi, I am not sure I understand the use cases for why you would need FAST-pharo. I mean, what does RB not already offer? Could you detail them? Cheers, Doru > On Feb 22, 2018, at 10:24 AM, Nicolas Anquetil <Nicolas.Anquetil(a)inria.fr&gt; wrote: > > I beleive steph would like to have FAST-pharo, because FAST-core alone does not do much, it's only the infrastructure. > > I am working on making FAST-pharo loadable and passing all the tests > > nicolas > > > On 21/02/2018 10:19, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 8:54 AM, Stéphane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr&gt; wrote: >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> You may want to use the CI image >>> https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/FAST-On-Moose/ >>> >>> >>> I cannot execute this image with the launcher. >>> And I cannot execute on my mac. >>> >> Hi! >> >> At Synectique we depend on it with this snippet: >> >> project: 'FASTCore' >> with: [ spec >> className: #ConfigurationOfFASTCore; >> versionString: #development; >> repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTCore/main/' ]. >> >> So, I think this should work: >> >> Metacello new >> repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTCore/main/'; >> configuration: 'FASTCore'; >> version: #development; >> load >> >> For the state of FAST: Fast meta model was not valid because it had >> multiple opposites for some properties and in Moose 6 or 6.1 (I don't >> remember) a model validation was added because MooseQuery require a >> valide meta model. >> >> With Nicolas we worked on it to make FASTCore valid. There was at the >> top of the hierarchy a method #parentNode and multiple properties >> defining it as opposite, which is not valid for FAME. >> >> What we did is that instead of pointing #parentNode for multiple >> properties, we created, for each property, a new opposite property in >> the right subclass of FASTEntity and we reimplemented #parentNode to >> point this new property. At the end, we replaced the #parentNode at >> the top of the hierarchy by a subclass responsibility. To keep it was >> only for backward compatibility. >> >> We validated the changes with the tests of one of Synectique >> meta-model. Maybe the implementations for the other languages are >> still not valid but I did not had the knowledge nor the time to check >> it :( >> >> > -- > Nicolas Anquetil > RMod team -- Inria Lille > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com www.feenk.com "We can create beautiful models in a vacuum. But, to get them effective we have to deal with the inconvenience of reality." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi doru it was just to look at how it was done. I spent today building a first super simple ControlFlowGraph for Pharo and the idea is to have this generic for other languages. Stef > On 22 Feb 2018, at 10:51, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com > <mailto:tudor@tudorgirba.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am not sure I understand the use cases for why you would need > FAST-pharo. I mean, what does RB not already offer? Could you detail > them? > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> On Feb 22, 2018, at 10:24 AM, Nicolas Anquetil >> <Nicolas.Anquetil(a)inria.fr <mailto:Nicolas.Anquetil@inria.fr>> wrote: >> >> I beleive steph would like to have FAST-pharo, because FAST-core >> alone does not do much, it's only the infrastructure. >> >> I am working on making FAST-pharo loadable and passing all the tests >> >> nicolas >> >> >> On 21/02/2018 10:19, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: >>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 8:54 AM, Stéphane Ducasse >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote: >>>> Hi Stef, >>>> >>>> You may want to use the CI image >>>> https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/FAST-On-Moose/ >>>> >>>> >>>> I cannot execute this image with the launcher. >>>> And I cannot execute on my mac. >>>> >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> At Synectique we depend on it with this snippet: >>> >>> project: 'FASTCore' >>>  with: [ spec >>>    className: #ConfigurationOfFASTCore; >>>    versionString: #development; >>>    repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTCore/main/' ]. >>> >>> So, I think this should work: >>> >>> Metacello new >>>  repository: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/FASTCore/main/'; >>>  configuration: 'FASTCore'; >>>  version: #development; >>>  load >>> >>> For the state of FAST: Fast meta model was not valid because it had >>> multiple opposites for some properties and in Moose 6 or 6.1 (I don't >>> remember) a model validation was added because MooseQuery require a >>> valide meta model. >>> >>> With Nicolas we worked on it to make FASTCore valid. There was at the >>> top of the hierarchy a method #parentNode and multiple properties >>> defining it as opposite, which is not valid for FAME. >>> >>> What we did is that instead of pointing #parentNode for multiple >>> properties, we created, for each property, a new opposite property in >>> the right subclass of FASTEntity and we reimplemented #parentNode to >>> point this new property. At the end, we replaced the #parentNode at >>> the top of the hierarchy by a subclass responsibility. To keep it was >>> only for backward compatibility. >>> >>> We validated the changes with the tests of one of Synectique >>> meta-model. Maybe the implementations for the other languages are >>> still not valid but I did not had the knowledge nor the time to check >>> it :( >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Nicolas Anquetil >> RMod team -- Inria Lille >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch <mailto:Moose-dev@list.inf.unibe.ch> >> https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > www.feenk.com > > "We can create beautiful models in a vacuum. > But, to get them effective we have to deal with the inconvenience of > reality." > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev