14 May
2013
14 May
'13
6:58 p.m.
Hi
I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges, so have
a look at edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and userDifinedEdges )
and then we face a problem:
- How do we do if we want to represent more than two kinds of edges ?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I haven't found it)
Regards
Mathieu
14 May
14 May
7:40 p.m.
Hi!
2013/5/14 mathieu <mathieubmddehouck(a)mailoo.org>
Hi
I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges, so have a
look at edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and userDifinedEdges ) and
then we face a problem:
I do not think it is related to your question. User can set
#userDefinedEdges and it defines edges used for computation of layout.
Instance variable edges is an internal variable used during the computation
of layout.
- How do we do if we want to represent more than two
kinds of edges ?
For standard ROLine shape, you can define colour or width. Is it enough?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I haven't
found it)
No, it is not supported for now.
Regards
Mathieu
Cheers,
Jura
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Hi
Well I know how to set color and width and shape for an Edge, the
question was :
if I have five sets of edges, each set representing something different,
is it possible to seperate them in the view/layout?
and can I tell these are blue and these are green with this shape
without using five blocks like "(view edges sellect: []) do: []" for
each set ?
Because it's not that difficult to tell these edges must be used for
computing the layout, and these other not, but if you have four
different kinds of relationship between nodes, you may want to have an
efficient way for dinstinguishing them.
Regards
Mathieu
Le 14/05/2013 19:40, Juraj Kubelka a écrit :
Hi!
2013/5/14 mathieu <mathieubmddehouck(a)mailoo.org
<mailto:mathieubmddehouck@mailoo.org>>
Hi
I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges,
so have a look at edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and
userDifinedEdges ) and then we face a problem:
I do not think it is related to your question. User can set
#userDefinedEdges and it defines edges used for computation of layout.
Instance variable edges is an internal variable used during the
computation of layout.
- How do we do if we want to represent more than two kinds of edges ?
For standard ROLine shape, you can define colour or width. Is it enough?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I haven't found it)
No, it is not supported for now.
Regards
Mathieu
Cheers,
Jura
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Hi Mathieu,
can you write a peace of code (interface) you would like to have? I think
this is an important in order to understand you. Basically I would do
something like this:
view shape line color: Color black.
view edgesFrom:to:.
view shape line color: Color blue.
view edgesFrom:to:.
…etc...
I suppose if you have 5 collections of edges, you have created separately,
right? But it seams you want something else, what I do not understand.
Cheers,
Jura
2013/5/14 mathieu <mathieubmddehouck(a)mailoo.org>
Hi
Well I know how to set color and width and shape for an Edge, the question
was :
if I have five sets of edges, each set representing something different,
is it possible to seperate them in the view/layout?
and can I tell these are blue and these are green with this shape without
using five blocks like "(view edges sellect: []) do: []" for each set ?
Because it's not that difficult to tell these edges must be used for
computing the layout, and these other not, but if you have four different
kinds of relationship between nodes, you may want to have an efficient way
for dinstinguishing them.
Regards
Mathieu
Le 14/05/2013 19:40, Juraj Kubelka a écrit :
Hi!
2013/5/14 mathieu <mathieubmddehouck(a)mailoo.org>
Hi
I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges, so have
a look at edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and userDifinedEdges )
and then we face a problem:
I do not think it is related to your question. User can set
#userDefinedEdges and it defines edges used for computation of layout.
Instance variable edges is an internal variable used during the computation
of layout.
- How do we do if we want to represent more than
two kinds of edges ?
For standard ROLine shape, you can define colour or width. Is it enough?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I
haven't found it)
No, it is not supported for now.
Regards
Mathieu
Cheers,
Jura
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1:40 a.m.
Hi Mathieu,
Currently, we cannot do a if:lineColor: (something we should add on some point).
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
view nodes: (1 to: 20).
view shape line
color: [ :edge |
(#( 2 3 4) includes: edge from model)
ifTrue: [ Color red. ]
ifFalse: [ Color lightGray ] ].
view edgesToAll: [ :v | { v + 3 . v + 5 . v *2 } ].
view circleLayout.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
(You need to update Roassal, I've spotted a bug in the meantime, which is fixed in the
last version).
For the curious, I have attached the screenshot and the output in html/d3 (nodes are drag
and droppable):
Cheers,
Alexandre
On May 14, 2013, at 2:26 PM, mathieu <mathieubmddehouck(a)mailoo.org> wrote:
Hi
Well I know how to set color and width and shape for an Edge, the question was :
if I have five sets of edges, each set representing something different, is it possible
to seperate them in the view/layout?
and can I tell these are blue and these are green with this shape without using five
blocks like "(view edges sellect: []) do: []" for each set ?
Because it's not that difficult to tell these edges must be used for computing the
layout, and these other not, but if you have four different kinds of relationship between
nodes, you may want to have an efficient way for dinstinguishing them.
Regards
Mathieu
Le 14/05/2013 19:40, Juraj Kubelka a écrit :
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Hi!
2013/5/14 mathieu <mathieubmddehouck(a)mailoo.org>
Hi
I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges, so have a look at
edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and userDifinedEdges ) and then we face a
problem:
I do not think it is related to your question. User can set #userDefinedEdges and it
defines edges used for computation of layout. Instance variable edges is an internal
variable used during the computation of layout.
- How do we do if we want to represent more than two kinds of edges ?
For standard ROLine shape, you can define colour or width. Is it enough?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I haven't found it)
No, it is not supported for now.
Regards
Mathieu
Cheers,
Jura
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9:24 p.m.
Hi,
I think there is a confusion somewhere.
By default, a layout will consider all edges in the graph. userDefinedEdges is a mechanism
to tell the layout to only consider a subset of edges when arranging nodes. For example,
in the MetaBrowser the visualization at the bottom shows red edges, but these edges are
not taken into account by the layout.
But, it seems to me that you would like to customize the way the edges look.
userDefinedEdges have nothing to do with this issue. What you want here is to set a shape
for your edges.
So, if you want to set different shapes for different edges, you could do like this:
view nodes: #(1 2 3).
view shape line.
view edgeFromAssociation: 1->2.
view shape arrowedLine.
view edgeFromAssociation: 2->3.
view horizontalLineLayout gapSize: 100
About dotted line, this is not yet supported, but you can add it as a subclass of ROLine.
Does this clarify the situation?
Cheers,
Doru
On May 14, 2013, at 6:58 PM, mathieu <mathieubmddehouck(a)mailoo.org> wrote:
Hi
I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges, so have a look at
edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and userDifinedEdges ) and then we face a
problem:
- How do we do if we want to represent more than two kinds of edges ?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I haven't found it)
Regards
Mathieu
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+1
Alexandre
On May 14, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
I think there is a confusion somewhere.
By default, a layout will consider all edges in the graph. userDefinedEdges is a
mechanism to tell the layout to only consider a subset of edges when arranging nodes. For
example, in the MetaBrowser the visualization at the bottom shows red edges, but these
edges are not taken into account by the layout.
But, it seems to me that you would like to customize the way the edges look.
userDefinedEdges have nothing to do with this issue. What you want here is to set a shape
for your edges.
So, if you want to set different shapes for different edges, you could do like this:
view nodes: #(1 2 3).
view shape line.
view edgeFromAssociation: 1->2.
view shape arrowedLine.
view edgeFromAssociation: 2->3.
view horizontalLineLayout gapSize: 100
About dotted line, this is not yet supported, but you can add it as a subclass of
ROLine.
Does this clarify the situation?
Cheers,
Doru
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Hi
I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges, so have a look at
edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and userDifinedEdges ) and then we face a
problem:
- How do we do if we want to represent more than two kinds of edges ?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I haven't found it)
Regards
Mathieu
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9:02 p.m.
On May 14, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
Hi,
I think there is a confusion somewhere.
By default, a layout will consider all edges in the graph.
userDefinedEdges is a mechanism to tell the layout to
only consider a subset of edges when arranging nodes. For example, in the MetaBrowser the
visualization at the bottom shows red edges, but these edges are not taken into account by
the layout.
yes we are doing the same.
We want a layout that convey a knd of zoom out of source code with labels and
invocations.
But, it seems to me that you would like to customize
the way the edges look. userDefinedEdges have nothing to do with this issue. What you want
here is to set a shape for your edges.
So, if you want to set different shapes for different edges, you could do like this:
view nodes: #(1 2 3).
view shape line.
view edgeFromAssociation: 1->2.
view shape arrowedLine.
view edgeFromAssociation: 2->3.
view horizontalLineLayout gapSize: 100
About dotted line, this is not yet supported, but you can add it as a subclass of
ROLine.
Does this clarify the situation?
Cheers,
Doru
On May 14, 2013, at 6:58 PM, mathieu <mathieubmddehouck(a)mailoo.org> wrote:
Hi
I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges, so have a look at
edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and userDifinedEdges ) and then we face a
problem:
- How do we do if we want to represent more than two kinds of edges ?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I haven't found it)
Regards
Mathieu
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Hi,
On May 15, 2013, at 9:02 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote:
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On May 14, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:
I do not understand this one. Could you provide more information?
Cheers,
Doru
Hi,
I think there is a confusion somewhere.
By default, a layout will consider all edges in the graph.
userDefinedEdges is a mechanism to tell the
layout to only consider a subset of edges when arranging nodes. For example, in the
MetaBrowser the visualization at the bottom shows red edges, but these edges are not taken
into account by the layout.
yes we are doing the same.
We want a layout that convey a knd of zoom out of source code with labels and
invocations. But, it seems
to me that you would like to customize the way the edges look. userDefinedEdges have
nothing to do with this issue. What you want here is to set a shape for your edges.
So, if you want to set different shapes for different edges, you could do like this:
view nodes: #(1 2 3).
view shape line.
view edgeFromAssociation: 1->2.
view shape arrowedLine.
view edgeFromAssociation: 2->3.
view horizontalLineLayout gapSize: 100
About dotted line, this is not yet supported, but you can add it as a subclass of
ROLine.
Does this clarify the situation?
Cheers,
Doru
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I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges, so have a look at
edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and userDifinedEdges ) and then we face a
problem:
- How do we do if we want to represent more than two kinds of edges ?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I haven't found it)
Regards
Mathieu
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Imagine a large file with several procedures
we would like to represent
proc1
proc2
proc3
in one or multiple columns
and edges between each of them calling the others.
So that we can propose to people a kind of feel of the calling flow.
Stef
I do not understand this one. Could you provide more
information?
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But, it
seems to me that you would like to customize the way the edges look. userDefinedEdges have
nothing to do with this issue. What you want here is to set a shape for your edges.
So, if you want to set different shapes for different edges, you could do like this:
view nodes: #(1 2 3).
view shape line.
view edgeFromAssociation: 1->2.
view shape arrowedLine.
view edgeFromAssociation: 2->3.
view horizontalLineLayout gapSize: 100
About dotted line, this is not yet supported, but you can add it as a subclass of
ROLine.
Does this clarify the situation?
Cheers,
Doru
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I was wondering how to give different senses to different edges, so have a look at
edgeDrivenLayout and subclasses.
It seems that there are 2 sets of edges ( edges and userDifinedEdges ) and then we face a
problem:
- How do we do if we want to represent more than two kinds of edges ?
Is Roassal able to draw dotted line ? (I haven't found it)
Regards
Mathieu
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