Hi guys I think that having a metacello configuration that is working for moose is key. So what are the problems? Stef _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

thanks I think that this is really important to address that if the build does not work then why the rest is of importance since we cannot rollback. So please have a look. Moose is really important and also we should learn for the complete pharo system. Dale replied. Stef On May 31, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > The problem is that we need a script that given: > - a baseline (default in our case), and > - the packages from the current image > > versions the current configuration and all the nested configurations. This does not seem to work properly because we have such a deep nesting of configurations. At this point, I would even be satisfied with having a specific configuration that lists all packages by flattening the nested configurations. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 31 May 2011, at 22:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> I think that having a metacello configuration that is working for moose is key. >> So what are the problems? >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi, (I am copying the metacello mailing list here because I think we could join the efforts by dealing with Moose as a case study) Stef, I did not see the reply of Dale. Where was it? In any case, let's join our efforts. Who is willing to spend some focus time around this: - Johan said he would, but it is unclear when - Alex? - anyone else? Doru On 1 Jun 2011, at 07:32, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > thanks > > I think that this is really important to address that if the build does not work then why the rest is of importance since we cannot rollback. > So please have a look. Moose is really important and also we should learn for the complete pharo system. > Dale replied. > > > Stef > > On May 31, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> The problem is that we need a script that given: >> - a baseline (default in our case), and >> - the packages from the current image >> >> versions the current configuration and all the nested configurations. This does not seem to work properly because we have such a deep nesting of configurations. At this point, I would even be satisfied with having a specific configuration that lists all packages by flattening the nested configurations. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 31 May 2011, at 22:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I think that having a metacello configuration that is working for moose is key. >>> So what are the problems? >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Problem solving should be focused on describing the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Even if I already spent a lot of time on this, I am willing to pursue the effort. We could meet in a couple of weeks in Bern about this. But best is to have Dale around. Dale, will you be at esug? Alexandre On 1 Jun 2011, at 05:40, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > (I am copying the metacello mailing list here because I think we could join the efforts by dealing with Moose as a case study) > > Stef, I did not see the reply of Dale. Where was it? > > In any case, let's join our efforts. Who is willing to spend some focus time around this: > - Johan said he would, but it is unclear when > - Alex? > - anyone else? > > Doru > > > > On 1 Jun 2011, at 07:32, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> thanks >> >> I think that this is really important to address that if the build does not work then why the rest is of importance since we cannot rollback. >> So please have a look. Moose is really important and also we should learn for the complete pharo system. >> Dale replied. >> >> >> Stef >> >> On May 31, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The problem is that we need a script that given: >>> - a baseline (default in our case), and >>> - the packages from the current image >>> >>> versions the current configuration and all the nested configurations. This does not seem to work properly because we have such a deep nesting of configurations. At this point, I would even be satisfied with having a specific configuration that lists all packages by flattening the nested configurations. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 31 May 2011, at 22:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> I think that having a metacello configuration that is working for moose is key. >>>> So what are the problems? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Problem solving should be focused on describing > the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Alexandre, I will be at ESUG, so that would be the best time to hash out the issues and come up with some real solutions... Dale ----- Original Message ----- > Even if I already spent a lot of time on this, I am willing to pursue > the effort. > We could meet in a couple of weeks in Bern about this. But best is to > have Dale around. > Dale, will you be at esug? > > Alexandre > > > On 1 Jun 2011, at 05:40, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> (I am copying the metacello mailing list here because I think we >> could join the efforts by dealing with Moose as a case study) >> >> Stef, I did not see the reply of Dale. Where was it? >> >> In any case, let's join our efforts. Who is willing to spend some >> focus time around this: >> - Johan said he would, but it is unclear when >> - Alex? >> - anyone else? >> >> Doru >> >> >> >> On 1 Jun 2011, at 07:32, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> thanks >>> >>> I think that this is really important to address that if the build >>> does not work then why the rest is of importance since we cannot >>> rollback. >>> So please have a look. Moose is really important and also we >>> should learn for the complete pharo system. >>> Dale replied. >>> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On May 31, 2011, at 10:53 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> The problem is that we need a script that given: >>>> - a baseline (default in our case), and >>>> - the packages from the current image >>>> >>>> versions the current configuration and all the nested >>>> configurations. This does not seem to work properly because we >>>> have such a deep nesting of configurations. At this point, I >>>> would even be satisfied with having a specific configuration >>>> that lists all packages by flattening the nested configurations. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On 31 May 2011, at 22:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi guys >>>>> >>>>> I think that having a metacello configuration that is working >>>>> for moose is key. >>>>> So what are the problems? >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Problem solving should be focused on describing >> the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious." >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Hi guys I think that having a metacello configuration that is working for moose is key. So what are the problems? Stef _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev