[Moose-dev] Re: exporting model to mse? do they keep the metrics

I do not understand what "non recomputable" means. Right now, everything that is not derived is saved.

Why is this not enough? I need a use case to understand :) Cheers, Doru On 15 Jul 2011, at 21:19, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > doru > > I was discussing with andre and I would like to be able to tag a property as essential = non recomputable so that we can garantee that > we always save them. > what do you think about that? > > > Stef > > On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi Andre, >> >> I just saw that the latest Moose build failed because of mismatch between the names of metric properties. For example: >> >> FAMIXType>>numberOfLinesOfCode >> " <property: #WLOC longName: 'Number of lines of code' description: >> 'The number of lines of code in a class'>" >> >> <MSEProperty: #numberOfLinesOfCode type: #Number> >> <MSEComment: 'The number of lines of code in a class'> >> >> ^self >> lookUpPropertyNamed: #numberOfLinesOfCode >> computedAs: [self methodsGroup sum: #numberOfLinesOfCode] >> >> >> The name of the metric should be WLOC. This is historical and it is a metric used to communicate with external parsers. >> >> So, all in all we need the name of the old properties in the Fame description. Could you take care of that? >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On 14 Jul 2011, at 23:05, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 14 Jul 2011, at 19:46, Andre Hora wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Yes Stef. >>>> Doru thanks for the feedback. You can check the code in (remember to use the last Merlin and updated the meta-model): >>>> >>>> Gofer new >>>> squeaksource: 'HoraExp'; >>>> package: 'FameExportMSE'; >>> >>> I tried this one. The idea is nice, but the problem is that the second step of the exporter wizard is too tall and goes out of my screen. We would need another layout. >>> >>>> package: 'FameExportProperties'; >>> >>> Very cool. This needs to go in Moose-Finder. The only thing to fix here is the label in the first wizard step when we have to choose type of exported file. >>> >>>> package: 'Famix-Extensions'; >>> >>> This is cool. I already copied it to the Moose repo. It's that easy :) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>>> load. >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Stéphane Ducasse &lt;stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr&gt; wrote: >>>> grab me next time I'm around because I want to have a look at that. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 1:51 PM, Andre Hora wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Just returning to this topic. >>>>> >>>>> As most of the metrics are not described at the Fame level we are losing this information when we export a model to MSE in Moose. We know that most of the metrics can be recalculated in the model, but in some cases they cannot. >>>>> For example, when exporting in Moose a Java (VerveineJ) model we lose the metrics cyclomaticComplexity (CYCLO) and numberOfStatements (NOS) and we cannot recalculate them. >>>>> >>>>> So, to avoid it, I changed some metrics (some I think are important, but we can change them if we integrate in Moose) to be described at the Fame level and like that we can export them into a MSE. In this case, as the we could have a huge MSE, I implemented a filter and you can select the metrics to be exported through a wizard. It solves, for example, the lose of information with VerveineJ if you decide to export CYCLO and NOS. >>>>> >>>>> To try you can run the script below and the right-click in a MooseModel and: Import / Export -> Export model to MSE with metrics. Use the last version of Merlin. >>>>> >>>>> Gofer new >>>>> squeaksource: 'FameImportExportEx'; >>>>> package: 'Fame-ImportExport-Extensions'; >>>>> package: 'Fame-ImportExport-Extensions-MSE'; >>>>> load. >>>>> >>>>> regards, >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Stéphane Ducasse &lt;stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr&gt; wrote: >>>>>> At one point metrics were described in the meta-model but then MSE files were very large, slow to export (because you have to compute all metrics), and slow to load (this was a long time ago). We decided to remove them from the Smalltalk MSE export (although the MSE importer can still handle metrics and other data, like for example when importing from infusion/verveinej). >>>>> >>>>> but even in Smalltalk you need to keep loc >>>>> >>>>>> Now is the interface to select what to export/import functional? >>>>> >>>>> I do not know but this is something you we should definitively do >>>>> : select what to save >>>>> : select the format >>>>> -> tab separated, mse, xml >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> That would be the way to go. Then describe metrics as part of a Fame package 'Metrics', then we can select group of data by package. I would still like to be able to not export metrics in the MSE file. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 22 juin 2011, at 15:27, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi guys >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could not find metrics in the saved MSE metrics like LOC that cannot be computed by moose. >>>>>>> Are metrics saved? I remember writing tests to make sure that this was correct. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In addition it would be good to be able to select some metrics to be exported to other formats. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Simon Denier >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Andre Hora >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andre Hora >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Beauty is where we see it." >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Being happy is a matter of choice." >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev