[Moose-dev] Re: Exporting a MooseModel

Hi Mariano, For some reason your mail appeared as blocked for the mailing list. I undid the setting now. Weird...Moose doesn't like me :(

Did you get the previous email of Simon? Yes, but I guess because he put me in cc.

Thanks Mariano Cheers, Doru On 25 May 2010, at 14:35, Simon Denier wrote: On 25 mai 2010, at 14:06, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: Hi Moosers. I am doing little experiments to export/serialize big graph of objects using ImageSegment. I though that MooseModel was a good candidate. And I even remember Simon's wishes for copying them. But I have a couple of questions: 1) Which is the bigger autogenerated MooseModel I can get to test? For the moment I am evaluating "MooseModel installDefaultModels". and then I export "MooseModel root". Is there a bigger one I can use? how ? Take a look at the MooseScripts class, class-side. There are a number of methods to create moose models from the image itself. In order of importance: Network << Moose << Pharo With network, you won't have any problem. With a model of Moose itself, it's fast enough to do lots of test yet you can still improve things. Then a Pharo model is certainly a good scalability test. 2) How is the root or any other MooseModel normally exported? Which methods? which technology ? Can you give me an example of the standard way to export/serialize/copy a MooseModel ? The only thing I saw is MooseModel class >> export: aModel to: aStream I just open a file and send it as Stream? Depends... - File persistency is done in the MSE format and using Fame to serialize entities in MSE. Just take a look at MooseModel>>exportToMSEStream: - To clone a model, just use MooseModelCopier>>copyModel: (this was a simple experiment to make practical copies of large MooseModels. Or rather to show that simple copy did not scale well on large MooseModel right now). 3) Suppose that I copy/export somehow a MooseModel (suppose the root) to a file. I take another Moose image, I load the file, objects are alive again and I replace MooseModel rootModel with the new object. How do I know if the copy/export worked correctly ? If I do it in the same image, I can have both, but how can I compare them to be sure everything was done ok ? method #= has no sense as it will use Object with is #==. So...any idea to know if the MooseModel I export and load again with ImageSegment is really working or not? I would change the tests setup to export/import the test model and run tests on it (that's what I did to test the MooseModelCopier). Only problem is that tests use some small models, so maybe some things will be hidden. This is start though. I want to test exporting and loading these MooseModel with different technologies but I need a way to know if the resulted object is correct or not. Ahhh please, cc' me in the mail as I am not sure I receive emails from this list. Thanks for any hints. Mariano _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Simon _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Being happy is a matter of choice." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev