[Moose-dev] Re: usage of moose and easel

-- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > On Mar 18, 2015, at 6:38 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink sheidev@yahoo.de wrote: > > Hi! > > I found out that there is difference between "do it" and "do it and go". Later one indeed allows to have somekind of live programming. > > I currently try to learn the Roassal framework without the need to look into Moose. I have a lot of CSV data available and it is best suited to try different representations. > > My problem was that Once I open Roassal easel and would liek to draw charts based on data in the model, I had no idea on how to add the underlaying data to the Easel Editor.... but they way you described in your example works perfectly fine for me. > > One should just maybe remove both editors from the world menu because it is not really useful... > When you open the examples via Easel the left ouse button does not work, the right button opens the system browser and the back button ends up in a debugger. > Without opening the examples there is not much to do... > > But like I said, once one understands it it is perfectly fine to deal with the Playground. > > I love it! > Sebastian > > > > Am 18.03.2015 um 14:25 schrieb Alexandre Bergel: >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> The easel is obsolete. It does not make sense to still have it since the inspector largely supersede it. The inspector allows for live programming in a fantastic way. We will do some cleaning. >> >> I am not sure to understand the problem you are facing. Have you tried the Roassal examples? >> >> Regarding Roassal 3d, it is nearly on standby. We will continue to work on it, but currently we do not have the (human) resources. >> >> Cheers >> Alexandre >> >> >> >>> Le 18 mars 2015 à 18:09, Sebastian Heidbrink sheidev@yahoo.de a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Alexandre, >>> >>> well this works great but it is somehow still beyond me how to use the Roassal Easel Editor on its own. >>> >>> I better ask: Why are Roassal Easel and Glamour Editor accessible via the WorldMenu if one can't really use them this way? >>> Or am I missing something? >>> >>> I saw some videos on live rendering during Roassal development. Is this just available for Roassal3d? >>> >>> >>> Sebastian >>> >>> >>> Am 13.03.2015 um 14:37 schrieb Alexandre Bergel: >>>>> Well, how can I add a model... there are now menus and the list is also not editable…? >>>> Currently, CSV tables are not hooked into Moose. I have no idea if someone has worked on this or not. On my side, I have never hooked CSV table to Moose because I have never seen a need for this. >>>> >>>> Consider the following script: >>>> >>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>> |tab ds b | >>>> tab := RTTabTable new input: 'http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/feed/v0.1/summary/2.5_month.csv' asUrl retrieveContents usingDelimiter: $,. >>>> tab removeFirstRow. >>>> tab replaceEmptyValuesWith: '0' inColumns: #(4 5). >>>> tab convertColumnsAsFloat: #(4 5). >>>> >>>> >>>> b := RTGrapher new. >>>> ds := RTDataSet new. >>>> ds interaction popup. >>>> ds points: tab values. >>>> ds dotShape color: (Color blue alpha: 0.3). >>>> ds x: [ :row | row at: 4 ]. >>>> ds y: [ :row | row at: 5 ]. >>>> b add: ds. >>>> >>>> b maxY: 8. >>>> b maxX: 700. >>>> >>>> b axisX title: 'depth'. >>>> b axisY title: 'magnitude'. >>>> b build. >>>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>> >>>> It visualizes seisms in plain Roassal, without the need to have it hooked into moose. This is a singular example. If I would deal with Seisms the all day long, then yes, I would surely hook it into moose (e.g., extending the Moose meta model, adding an importer in the Moose Panel, …). >>>> >>>> At that stage, I have never seen the need. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev@iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev