[Moose-dev] Re: Why we do not have import in menu

come on doru you can have a design in mind if user has to think all the time this means that the design does not work. "Ok I should not use the contextual menu for this task" repeat after me and breath..... And now I have to learn by heart >> I actually agree with steph. > > I do not. > >> The two menus might seem like an added facility but I believe they are confusing, >> e.g. why is there two options to import from MSE? Are they equivalent or not? >> (probably not since one is in the model conext menu, but then what does it do?) > > You cannot expect to use a tool without considering at all how it is designed. > > The design of the Moose UI is uniform and object oriented when you click on something it concerns that something > http://www.themoosebook.org/book/externals/ui/entity It is not. When I want to interact with a model I have to click somewhere on a bar while the list is in another place In fact this is remote distributed object-orientation. > So, the two are not the same. The global one will create a model, while the contextual one will populate the current model. yeah sure. Now I have to always remember ok I should not use the contextual menu. > Now, I do agree that some of the menu items should be eliminated, and I think that the import from the model menu is one candidate. I do not even understand what you are saying on this one. >> I would also suggest a more traditional menubar above the models output instead of the buttons that are on the top right of the window. >> For newcomers, they are likely to be ignored because this is where one usually finds iconify/maximize/close buttons > > The design is intentional and again has to do with uniformity in Glamour: the actions for a certain presentation/browser can be found on the top-right regardless of whether this is in a top window or embedded in some pane. Well we can find all kind of good reasons. But at the end on mac there is a plus and minus **Related to the list** not on the other side of the pane. So adding and removing a model should not be at the other end of the pane. Stef > >> just my 2c > > Thanks :) > > Cheers, > Doru > > >> nicolas >> >> ----- Mail original ----- >>> De: "Tudor Girba" <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>> À: "Moose-related development" <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch> >>> Envoyé: Mardi 24 Mai 2011 15:32:28 >>> Objet: [Moose-dev] Re: Why we do not have import in menu >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> I do not understand what this issue is about. Could you be more >>> specific? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 24 May 2011, at 15:23, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> why do I have action in menus and action in toolbar? >>>> Why as a user I have to remember where to look? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter." > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev