6 Apr
2014
6 Apr
'14
12:05 a.m.
This is amazing to see how user interfaces are so subjective and hard to formalize. At
first, I was not happy with the white theme at all. But now, I find it nicer than the
default theme. Unfortunately, I cannot say what i exactly like in the white theme.
Alexandre
On 5 Apr 2014, at 05:42, Guillaume Larcheveque
<guillaume.larcheveque(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I confirm that I'm always changing the theme. The main reason is that there is no
contrast at all.
For the usability experiments with people, I had a teaches on Moose with other INRIA
engineers (who doesn't use pharo) and the first comment was that the look is not
friendly at all and they had difficulties with it.
2014-04-04 22:13 GMT+02:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>om>:
Thanks for the input.
If you say it like that there are little chances of changing anything. The only way we
can improve is to know why something does not work. Only when we know the reasons can we
start to react properly. So, please do let us know what does not work.
Just because it is about the way something looks does not mean that we cannot have a
structure discussion about it.
Please note that I am not saying that the white theme is the ultimate design. It is not.
But, to find other means of expressions we have to leave the classic one and build simple
things in simple ways. The white theme has a small amount of visual variables which goes
hand in hand with the philosophy of Pharo. This is something to nurture, not to push away.
If something does not work for a reason then we look at it. For example, when the
scrolling did not work, we changed the color. I want to spend the energy in doing that,
but I need your input.
Just for the record, I am doing similar usability experiments with people that do not
know Pharo upfront, and they seem to have no problem finding their way. So, it is not
quite as random as it might appear.
Doru
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For the record, I am not so happy with the white theme either.
On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote:
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I checked here in rmod and I realized that NOBODY uses the white theme and I realized
that I was not the only one to
get fedup with it. So when can it be not the default one?
Stef
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