9 Oct
2016
9 Oct
'16
8:08 p.m.
Did you look at the Mooc videos because I spent hours to make them and
they really explain well all that?
The lectures are also free so you can use them for lectures if you want
(not talking about the cool
exercises :)
http://mooc.pharo.org
Since people like to know the values of things, this mooc was valued to
150000 Euros :)
Le 8/10/16 à 19:25, Cris Fuhrman a écrit :
Hi Stef,
Installing moose was simple and I thoroughly enjoyed the demo of the
moose book regarding ArgoUML (even if it was an older version of
FAMIX). This got me totally hooked :-) Using Pharo as a language was
easy with the *ProfSef go.* http://stackoverflow.com/a/14414221/1168342
But the "IDE" notion of the environment was/is not so intuitive. One
big block was the process of creating classes/methods because I'm
conditioned to seek a "new class" menu (à la Eclipse, Visual Studio,
etc.) that simply does not exist in Pharo. It strangely exists for
packages, which added to the confusion I think.
My personal experience ahead: For the longest time, I was just banging
on experimental code in a playground (even finding the playground took
me some time) -- I was savagely saving my images until I finally lost
some work because the image got too big (didn't lose much work, but I
realized my working method was not sustainable and I decided to hunker
down with a tutorial). 4 months ago (or so) I totally got along with
R's environment (with no experience at all) from nothing but using
Google. I've embraced plenty of techs in the same lightweight way,
MikTeX, LyX, JavaScript, Git, etc. I guess I felt like it is hard to
"teach this old dog the new Pharo trick", despite these other
successes. The language is beautiful and simple.
The tutorial I finally went (suffered?) through to create
classes/methods was for an older version of Pharo environment. It
didn't look like Pharo on my Windows 10 and I had to open my mind a
lot more (than I'm used to) to finally bridge the gap. Still not
comfortable with coding this way. I like to do versioning of code
(this old dog started in MPW on a Mac, used CVS, SVN and now Git). For
now, I'm probably not sure if I need it in Pharo/Moose.
Going to try to get some students working on this soon.
Cheers,
C. Fuhrman
On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 2:11 AM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr
<mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote:
Hi cris
Let us know if you need help to
install moose
get started with Pharo (because pharo is cooool)
Stef
Le 6/10/16 à 06:38, Cris Fuhrman a écrit :
On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Hernán
Morales Durand
<hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
Do you have good reference links to publications (yours or
from other people) which uses Moose metrics for example in a
"Material and Methods" section?
The following publication is what got me back onto Moose (I had
seen Moose in the past, but the lack of means to run smalltalk
easily stopped me from pursuing it):
https://scholar.google.com.hk/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&…
<https://scholar.google.com.hk/citations?view_op=view_citation&hl=en&citation_for_view=SgSSzKIAAAAJ:zYLM7Y9cAGgC>
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