[Moose-dev] Re: glamorous toolkit: v0.4.0

Hi, We have no interest in playing politics in any way. That is why we are making explicit both our aims and the ways in which we work. As I mentioned, we work as a team and our goal is specifically to offer a different alternative to approaching programming. At the moment, this is different from the goal of Pharo, although the two are likely not incompatible. Interestingly, this goal is not far from the work that happened around Moose. Humane assessment was born in the Moose context, and in fact, the first GT was developed for several years in the context of Moose as well. The most concrete thing that people see from our current effort is the new GT interface, but we are building other things as well. First, GT has tools inside that are interesting for other purposes. We mentioned recently Releaser, a new tool that we think solves a significant problem in Pharo. Also, the Examples engine might be interesting, too. And so is the Bloc stack in which we invested heavily. Less obvious is that we have created xdoc, a format and associated technology for sharing executable documents. We also develop the moldable development approach that is enabled by the new kinds of tools. From a concrete perspective, indeed, we are only relying on about half of the current Pharo (the language&runtime, but not the graphics&environment). At the same time, most code we build is available as open-source in ways that are compatible with Pharo both from a license and from a technical perspective. At present time, our code loads cleanly and works in the latest Pharo without any modifications required for Pharo. While we love working in Pharo, we are not the ones that decide its course, and we leave the decisions of what will happen with Pharo with the Pharo team. Cheers, Doru -- www.feenk.com "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen."