[Moose-dev] Re: when can we avoid to have the white theme as default?

I think that if we would be really serious about the themes we would do the following: - Take three persons and ask them to perform some tasks and talk aloud to describe what they are thinking when they perform a task. with simply three persons that are not used to a theme you can debug many problems To me right now I cannot use the white theme. Getting less visual clue is a dead-end to me because this is not having less the right goal. The right goal is having a theme that is helping people to work and that it looks good. BTW when we debugged the font problems with igor, we were really frustrated because the debugger did not let us restart methods (they was no fly by help, no menus….) then we dod not know how in some cases we could get another debugger with more items (no ideas why) and we got some problem with keybinding in the workspace. We open an old workspace to be able to work!!! So of course we can think that igor and me are just two little idiots not understanding what we were doing. Now do not expect that people like Igor will spend their time fixing Moose problems (because this was a problem of Moose - adding fonts without adding them to the crappy ad-hoc registration mechanism was a Moose problem). Igor was nice to help me but do not cry in the future if people do not help because if the basic tools do not work well why people should freely spent their time helping us. Igor did it because I was forced to do it and we did it together. I was also frustrated because I also have something else to do than to fight with a debugger that did not have the default functionality. but icons do not work me. After that experience I was thinking that I should do a new jenkins job loading my version of Moose and do not say it around. I would imagine that everybody at RMOD would suddenly use this version of Moose because many people are getting frustrated. I did not want to start a war but I was ****REALLLLLYYYY**** frustrated. I could not see the input field, I could not get the workspace working and the debugger was wrong. So yes we can say that nautilus is bad but I use it daily and I have no problem to know where to type. Feel free to ignore this message, but when I will be really mad again I will create a jenkins job and only use this version. I fully understand Yuriy’s idea to have less Moose! And I will ask the people that wants me to help to only use this version that I can use. Stef