Okay,
here you are some of my new results.
5.1 image in a pharo 4.0 installation:
- Moose pane tabs strange resize upon mouse over.
- Moose pane tabs sometimes won't disappear after closing them. One
hast to click on them "anywhere" and then they disappear.
- managed to make Moose pane freeze after selecting a different
entry in the main model entry level list. I can't relaibly reprdocuce it
yet.
- The Finish button of the Pharo ST model import is out of sight.
One needs to resize Pharo to access it.
- The label of the tab on top of the loaded model list is
shortended and not readable...
Other than that that is the best combination so far. Thank you!
Pharo 3.0 virgin install with:
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose';
configuration;
loadStable.
Code critics Browser of Pharo is broken.
I did not even activate Moose yet.
This is the official combination and release on the web sites. You
should change that.
Sebastian
Am 22.01.2015 um 13:33 schrieb Andrei Chis:
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink
<sheidev(a)yahoo.de <mailto:sheidev@yahoo.de>> wrote:
4.0 is not official, or is it?
Yes, it not the official version but it's in a, more or less, usable
state.
I want to present Pharo and Moose to newbies,... I want to make
sure that they go home, download Pharo and have fun with the
PharoTutorial.
I understand your use case. I fixed the configuration of GToolkit to
load into pharo 3. The following code now works (but does not load the
moose finder)
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit';
configuration;
loadStable.
#GTImageSetupCommandLineHandler asClass new activateWithoutSaving.
This loads the entire moose 5.0. Haven't run it but the moose 5 build
is green so it should work:
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose';
configuration;
loadStable.
#MooseImageSetupCommandLineHandler asClass new activateWithoutSaving.
And now to your suggestion.
Where do the package sources for 5.1 reside? I assume this 5.1
image does not work within a 5.0 folder, does it?
The package sources are on Smalltalkhub
(
http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Moose
<http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#%21/%7EMoose>).
A 5.1 image should work if you put it in the folder from the 5.0
distribution. The vm needed to run them is the same.
In the 5.1 I can't even load a model! I am on Windows 7 64Bit english
What error do you get?
Unit tests are great! But ui tests need to be done, too!
Indeed :)
Cheers,
Andrei
Sebastian
Am 22.01.2015 um 13:00 schrieb Andrei Chis:
Hi Sebastian,
Why not use the prebuild image of Moose 5.1 from Pharo 4? You can
download it here:
https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/moose-5.1/
Moose 5.0 is already way behind Moose 5.1 regarding the tools
from GToolkit.
Cheers,
Andrei
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Sebastian Heidbrink
<sheidev(a)yahoo.de <mailto:sheidev@yahoo.de>> wrote:
Hi!
I wanted to familiarize myself with Moose and the GlamourToolkit.
Since 2 days I try to load a stable and fully working
environment but it is not poassible no matter how many
combinations of version ans repositories I use.
Here are the steps I would expect to result in a working
Moose-Image based on a Pharo 3.0 virgin image.
Download a Pharo 3.0 installation.
Sytem - Software update (with and without this step... no
different result)
Open Workspace and execute this:
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose';
configuration;
loadStable. (or loadDevelopment but both have the same
results)
While loading the Moose package, I get several warnings about
missing prerequisites or application that are about to be
modified (mainly GTSpotter and Context related issues). I
guess the load order is not right there.
Now here are my bugs:
- Pharo Critic Browser is broken after loading Moose. I
attached the stack. No I didn't it is 8mb,... too much for
the forum, I guess
- On a small netbook screen one can't import smalltalk code
into Moose. The final import form/widget is so big, that the
"finish" button can not be pressed and the widget can't be
moved. A different layout might be helpful. The taskbar
overlays and intercapts mouse events.
- When I want to close a Model in Moose Panel and I close the
main tab I get a massive amount of debuggers and it is better
to shutdown the image.
- Roassal widgets with text overlays show a red background
debugger on mouse over events. StrikeFont dnu.... (LocalFont
glyphRendererOn:). I meanwhile know that I can solve this by
changing the Font settings of my image.
- The Moose Panel's tabs behaves wierd. On mouse over they
change the size of the tab's labels and one can't read and
localize the desired tab anymore. This gets worse when you
have many tabs opened
- When I just close one of many tabs in Moose panel, I get
errors regarding doLayout is not understood by undefined
Object and the whole image freezes or after a further
clicks,... the image is swamped with debuggers.
Now, even when Pharo seems to have issues already. I go on an
try this:
Gofer new
smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'GToolkit';
configuration;
loadStable.
#GTImageSetupCommandLineHandler asClass new activateWithoutSaving
- it is unclear to me how I can start the gtspotter....
- Open playground do a 1 inspect and get a Debugger saying
SmallInteger class dnu allSLots
Okay this is the last thing that makes the most enthusiastic
user go away from .... I hope not Smalltalk.
I started a software night here in town last Tuesday and I
want to add Smalltalk flavour. So far they where amazed about
it but I used VASmalltalk to show a "real live development
system" sinceI know that it is bullit proof. And it was.
But I also want to introduce the aspect of Smalltalk as tool
and that is where Phaor and Moose come in... it would be
great if I had a stable image that I could use for future nights.
It would be great if somebody could look into that.
Cheers!
Sebastian
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