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why methods is not a set in FamixClass

by stephane ducasse

or an OrderedSet? Stef

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Could I get a list of bugs to smash in moose?

by stephane ducasse

Hi I would like to give a try to do something else than latex. Is there a list of bugs that I can work on? Adrian you mentioned __state__ to finish and I know that Task was left not totally finished. Could you put your todo with the probability that you will work on them? Stef

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Creating and filling a model?

by Bergel, Alexandre

Dear Moose mailing list, I am not sure whether the late hours is making me miss something obvious, but how can I create an instance of a model, and populate it with instances of Famix class ? Cheers, Alexanre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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could we have an email in the mailingl; st when a new moose dev is published

by stephane ducasse

with an indication of the changes? Stef

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Loading a model through the GUI

by Bergel, Alexandre

Dear MOOSEers, As an exercise, I am parsing Java files and loading the corresponding Java classes in a moose model. Whereas it seems that I fill the model well, I got a rollback when using the Moose GUI façade. I spend some time on it, but I failed in trying to debug it. It seems that a famix element should know about the model it is part of. But I do not know how to set it. the error comes from the method: FAMIXAbstractStruture >>incomingAccesses ^self entityGroups at: #incomingAccesses ifAbsentPut: [self mooseModel allAccesses select: [:each | each accesses = self]]. self mooseModel returns nil If you want to try, you can load the package JavaSupport4Moose in the SCGStore. I attached a short java file to try this. Once the package loaded, click on the "..." button in the Moose GUI. The test Java4MOOSETest>>testReadingJavaFile is green cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Design question

by Bergel, Alexandre

Was wondering how comes that the class Importer inherits from collection? Is an importer really a collection? Again, sorry in case of a naive question Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Design question

by Alexandre Bergel

Was wondering how comes that the class Importer inherits from collection? Is an importer really a collection? Again, sorry in case of a naive question Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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What are model methods and model classes?

by Bergel, Alexandre

Sorry if my question illustrates my ignore in Moose :-) Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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what will be the status of Access vs reference in FAMIX3.0

by stephane ducasse

Hi guys I would like to know how we will migrate to FAMIX20 to 30 because I would like also to extract references (if I remember we will have access and references). And I'm right now chasing a bug in references extraction. Stef

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wide classes

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I totally agree that the "base programmer" needs to be supported, but on the other hand we should offer the tools to extend Moose. It is just that I do not understand exactly what the advantages/ disadvantages are, and I propose to start a discussion on that. I do not understand exactly the solution, but here is what I understood as the reasons for wide classes: 1. extend the state of a class from another package 2. save memory by only allocating a instance variable slot when it is used 3. (speed?) 1. In VW we can extend the methods and that allowed us to have a nice extensible architecture. In the same way, we should be able to extend the state as well, for example for caching results performed by a method extension. That is why currently, we have __state__ in each entity that has dictionaries for storing such results, and we wrap the calls to __state__ in setters and getters. For example, in DynaMoose we have: FAMIXClass>>instances ^self __state__ attributeGet: #instances initializer: [ OrderedCollection new ] FAMIXClass>>instances: aCollection ^self __state__ attributeSet: #instances value: aCollection The symbol is only used here. All tools work nicely with that (actually, in VW looking for senders of a method will also get you the usages of the symbol). This mechanism is crucial for extending the meta-model. The wide classes solution would pose the same overhead on the programmer. 2. The second reason for the wide classes is to reduce the memory footprint, because you will only get a slot if you use it. The current solution will create a dictionary for all instance variables extensions and an entry for each of them. I would be curious to see what the difference is. 3. Speed. I am definitely not sure about this point, but wide classes should be faster than looking into a dictionary. But, I do not believe this has a real impact over the overall performance, in particular given that the dictionary are rather small. Of course, you can just bash anything I wrote here :) Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them."

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moose.unibe.ch-bug

by Toon Verwaest

The searchbox doesn't appear to work in firefox cheers

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Changed location of MSE4Java

by Adrian Kuhn

https://www.iam.unibe.ch/scg/svn_repos/Sources/Famix/MSE4Java/ https://www.iam.unibe.ch/scg/svn_repos/Sources/Famix/MSE4Java/famix.jar Please update your links. cheers, AA

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A bug to smash in moose

by Sandro De Zanet

Hello everyone I generated a mse file (see attachment) which should generate 14 methods in the class ' Superclass', but here are 17 methods shown in the moose browser (some methods are duplicated). The file seems ok, so I think there is a bug in moose, reading the file. Cheers Sandro (Moose.Model (name 'frittelitest') (entity (FAMIX.Method (id: 1) (name 'foo') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'foo')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 2) (name 'put') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'put')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 3) (name 'size') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'size')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 4) (name 'main') (belongsTo (idref: 15)) (signature 'main')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 5) (name 'isEmpty') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'isEmpty')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 6) (name 'foo') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'foo')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 7) (name 'containsValue') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'containsValue')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 8) (name 'entrySet') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'entrySet')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 9) (name 'putAll') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'putAll')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 10) (name 'remove') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'remove')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 11) (name 'containsKey') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'containsKey')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 12) (name 'get') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'get')) (FAMIX.Namespace (id: 13) (name 'frittelitest') (class (idref: 14) (idref: 16) (idref: 15))) (FAMIX.Class (id: 14) (name 'Superclass') (NOA 0) (NOM 14) (method (idref: 1) (idref: 6) (idref: 19) (idref: 11) (idref: 7) (idref: 8) (idref: 12) (idref: 5) (idref: 17) (idref: 2) (idref: 9) (idref: 10) (idref: 3) (idref: 20))) (FAMIX.Class (id: 16) (name 'Subclass') (NOA 0) (NOM 1) (method (idref: 18))) (FAMIX.Class (id: 15) (name 'Main') (NOA 0) (NOM 1) (method (idref: 4))) (FAMIX.Method (id: 17) (name 'keySet') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'keySet')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 18) (name 'foo') (belongsTo (idref: 16)) (signature 'foo')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 19) (name 'clear') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'clear')) (FAMIX.Method (id: 20) (name 'values') (belongsTo (idref: 14)) (signature 'values'))))

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collective behavior

by Tudor Girba

Hmm, I was about to write that the goal of collective behavior is to model the behavior of the groups (like you demoed at ESUG), and I wanted to ask how do you store this behavior in Store. Now I see that I misunderstood completely. From the arguments below, I believe it is not really worth the trouble. Doru >> B1) the reasons for collective behavior >> > > To save memory. > > Each moose element has a back pointer to its model. This is 4 byte > per element, ie 4 MB per 1 Mio elements. Which are realistic maybe > even low numbers when analysing histories or traces. With collective > behavior the memory footprint is (4 + F) * M * T, where F is the size > of an anonymous class, M is the number of models and T is the number > of element types used per model. Given that F is about 80 byte > (including object headers and metaclasses etc pp) and T maybe about > 25, that is 2 KB = 0.002 MB per Model. > > >> B2) the solutions for collective behavior >> >> I propose to talk about each of these two points individually, >> because they are not the same to me. > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "Some battles are better lost than fought."

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[ANN] moose.unibe.ch

by Tudor Girba

Hi, A new webpage based on Pier is up and running at: http:// moose.unibe.ch . Feedback is welcome :). Here is an overview: -- the front page is supposed to offer all sorts of entry points into the contents. -- publications are read from a bib file that contains the entries from scg.bib that are marked as moose-pub. For each publication a page is created whose title is the title of the paper, the url is the key of the entry and the tags of the page are the keywords of the entry. This is useful for the publications cloud that you can see on the front page. I spent quite some time to add missing moose-pub keywords and to add several other keywords. Now that the keywords are actually used, perhaps we will have an incentive to add some more for our publications :) -- on the front page there is a place for a highlight that is randomly shown. At the moment there are just 2 movies with Mondrian. It would be cool to have more such videos with your nice tools :). To add your highlight, you have to add a page below randomhighlight similar to: http://moose.unibe.ch/randomhighlight/videomondrianbasics -- on the tools page, each tool has a page allocated. You can add tags in each tool page, and these keywords are taken into account in the tools cloud. For example, you can specify whether the tool is in- visualworks or in-java. -- there is a news feed. At the moment it is broken due to some Apache settings or something :), but it should be available at: http://moose.unibe.ch/news?view=PBEntriesRssView -- the site contains the content from the Smallwiki page. I also took the liberty to copy some content from personal sites (like codecity or softwarenaut). I hope that is Ok. -- you can follow the changes via RSS: http://moose.unibe.ch/?view=PRChangesRssView -- the webpage is persisted in the image, and the image is scheduled to be saved under a different name 1 hour after a change. You need a user to change the page, please ask me for one. There are two types of users: admin and editor. The admin can do everything, while the editor can just edit :). You will probably get an editor user. Further details about how to edit the site can be found at: http://moose.unibe.ch/varia/howtoedit This is just version 1. There are several things that are still in plan: - make publications updated periodically from external urls. Currently it is updated manually. - make the tool page a special component that has explicit links to publications and developers. The tool should also have an explicit license field. - port the Store queries from VW to Squeak to create activity reports. - add last update information on each page. - work on the css to make it use a better alignment Cheers, Doru p.s. I would like to thank Lukas Renggli and Adrian Lienhard for their help and patience :). -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "We cannot reach the flow of things unless we let go."

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Fwd: moose.unibe.ch

by Tudor Girba

> From: Tudor Girba <girba(a)iam.unibe.ch> > Date: November 22, 2007 11:51:01 AM GMT+01:00 > To: Toon Verwaest <toon.verwaest(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Moose-dev Moose Dev <moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch> > Subject: Re: moose.unibe.ch > > Indeed, this is the main rule of web design. > > But, in this case, the problem is in Pier. I will fix it soon. > > Doru > > > > > On Nov 22, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Toon Verwaest wrote: > >> This is how your moosepage looks on firefox. Since 44.68% of your >> visitors come from firefox (+3% mozilla). I would strongly advice >> you to have a look at designing the site so its compatible with >> non-safari browsers. On internet explorer it already looks fairly >> ok but not great either. And actually, safari represents only 15% >> of the users, so only 15% of the users see the page correctly. >> Isn't this one of the major web design rules? >> >> cheers >> Toon > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > www.tudorgirba.com/blog > > "Obvious things are difficult to teach." > > -- www.tudorgirba.com www.tudorgirba.com/blog "One cannot do more than one can do."

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Announcement, #moose-dev channel on freenode

by Adrian Kuhn

Toon and me created a moose-dev channel on freenode to hang around, please feel free to join us irc://chat.freenode.net:8000/moose-dev Is this a correct IRC link? ... we'll see :) cheers, AA

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Problem with Hapax when loading Moose Config

by Matthias Junker

When i try to load moose config 1.23 in a fresh image i get the following error: Warning: Package "HapaxNamespace" cannot be loaded. The following classes cannot be loaded because their environment is not in the image nor in the package being loaded: LICENSE (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) When i hit ok anyway, i get a lot of unloadable class definitions Warning: Package "Clustering" cannot be loaded. The following classes cannot be loaded because their environment is not in the image nor in the package being loaded: CorrelationSquare (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) ClusterTest (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) CorrelationVector (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) DendrogramLeaf (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) ClusteringData (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) TimeWarpingEngine (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) ValueItem (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) CollectionItem (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) DistanceSquare (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) ClusterEngine (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) SeriationEngine (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) Dendrogram (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) DendrogramTest (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) ClusteringVector (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) DendrogramNode (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) VectorItem (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) FeatureCollection (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Hapax) etc... Cheers, Matt

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Famix30beta-14.pdf

by Adrian Kuhn

Please find attached the latest PDF of FAMIX.Core beta more informations will follow cheers, AA & Hani

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problems with loading moose development

by Richard Wettel

Hi, I am trying to load my prerequisites (MooseDevelopment) and first I get this: "Warning: Package "Meta-FM3-Model" cannot be loaded. The following classes cannot be loaded because their environment is not in the image nor in the package being loaded: MultivalueLink (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Meta)" Followed by a bunch of unloadable definitions in Meta. After loading everything I could, I try to initialize the meta descriptions and I get: "Unhandled exception: Message not understood: #on:opposite: UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: EMOF.Class>>initialize ..." Could you guys fix it? Thanks, Ricky

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can we know how many download the postgres server is doing on moose?

by stephane ducasse

Hi guys could you ask the syst admin if we can know how the activity of a particular DB entry at the postgres level? Stef

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Moose Suite Loader

by Timo Gienger

Hi Moose-Dev-Team, i´m currently trying to install Moose with the Moose Suite Loader in Visual Works 7.5. When i try to download the suite, the first dialog tells me "currently disconnected, do you want to reconnect?" so sure i want, so clicking yes leads me to the next problem that tells me "A problem was detected. Please try again". The status window in VisualWorks tells me: " visualnc.im created at April 17, 2007 10:52:24 amERROR: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block ERROR: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block ERROR: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block ERROR: current transaction is aborted, commands ignored until end of transaction block ... " I hope you can help me to install the Moose Suite because i want to use it in my diplom-thesis about software-metrics. I wanted to use the MooseSuite in a chapter about visualizing metrics in the software development process. Thanks in advice! Greetings Timo Gienger

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Patterns for Mondrian

by Adrian Kuhn

We extended Mondrian with patterns | view | view := Mondrian.ViewRenderer new. view rectangleShape. view shape fillColor: CodeFoo.Color red. view shape patternColor: CodeFoo.Color black. view shape patternName: [ :each ]. view shape width: 120. view shape height: 80. view nodes: #(gray diagonal inverseDiagonal fancy) . view open. cheers, AA & Hani

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Feature request Mondrian: #sendToBack, #bringToFront, etc...

by Adrian Kuhn

Hey Doru, I did not manage to achieve this, can you take care? We want to have - sendToBack - bringToFront - sendBackword - bringForward in the context menu of Mondrian figure. (as in Excel par example) cheers, AA

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just a meta wish...

by stephane ducasse

Hi guys we have been discussing with alex here about our visibility since other groups at inria are using Gforge and are counting their donwloads. I think that we cannot do too much because I do not see how it would make sense to use svn for developing Moose. Now I see several paths to help moose while helping us (stef at inria) internally: I think tat this is really important to refer to the moose articles in the paper and PhD thesis. Oscar Nierstrasz, Stéphane Ducasse and Tudor Gîrba, The Story of Moose: an Agile Reengineering Environment, In Proceedings of the European Software Engineering Conference (ESEC/FSE 2005), New York NY, ACM Press, pp. 1-10, 2005, Invited paper, PDF , DOI Stéphane Ducasse, Tudor Gîrba, Michele Lanza and Serge Demeyer, Moose: a Collaborative and Extensible Reengineering Environment, In Tools for Software Maintenance and Reengineering, Milano, Franco Angeli, pp. 55-71, 2005, PDF Stef

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