Hi,
You also need to load the latest version of System-Announcements from
scgStore.
Also, the underlying browser only works in VW 7.5 because of Widgetry.
Cheers,
Doru
On Oct 29, 2008, at 3:42 PM, azadeh wrote:
> Hi,
>
> It was interesting for me what I have found in Enriching Reverse
> Engineering with Annotations.
> I have loaded Moose and Metanool what should I load besides that?
>
> thanks,
> Azadeh
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Hi Michael,
I am glad it worked. In the meantime I have updated the release with
some new settings.
Please give it a try again and let me know if it works:
http://moose.unibe.ch/download/readytouse
Cheers,
Doru
On Oct 31, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Michael Waelti wrote:
> Hello Tudor
>
> I followed the instructions for the scgStore installation and... it
> works! Now the real fun can begin :)
>
> Thank you very much for your prompt help.
>
> all the best
> michael w.
>
> Tudor Girba wrote:
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Could you try installing Moose on Ubuntu using the installation
>> steps from the download page of Moose? I would be interested if
>> that would work. Because if it does work something is strange and
>> then we should ask on the VisualWorks mailing list :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2008, at 2:37 PM, Michael Waelti wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Tudor
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your quick reply.
>>>
>>> In this case I'll have to have a look at the windows installation
>>> again. The Ubuntu-Problem also occured with one of my team mates
>>> from EVO.
>>> Just thought to let you know.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>
>>>> The ready-to-use distribution works fine on Mac and Windows. I do
>>>> not have a Ubuntu available so I cannot test it. Still I do not
>>>> see why it would not work, unless something is wrong with the
>>>> virtual machine or with your system.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, due to some changes in VW 7.6 the parcel installer does
>>>> not work anymore. So, I retired the page completely.
>>>>
>>>> If you want to download Moose, you would have to follow the
>>>> instructions from:
>>>> http://moose.unibe.ch/download
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2008, at 2:00 PM, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Michael Waelti <m.waelti(a)gmx.ch>
>>>>>> Date: October 31, 2008 1:42:46 PM CEST
>>>>>> To: moose(a)iam.unibe.ch
>>>>>> Subject: [Moose] Installation troubles
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just tried to install moose and it seems as if I'm unable to
>>>>>> do it
>>>>>> properly. As I haven't found anything online, I wanted to ask you
>>>>>> wether
>>>>>> you had the same problems as well:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I use the ready-to-use distribution, I can install it under
>>>>>> Ubuntu
>>>>>> 8.04 and Windows XP, but when I try to start it, I just get a
>>>>>> window
>>>>>> without any content and the title "exception"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If i try to use the parcel version, after some loading and
>>>>>> installing it
>>>>>> aborts with a error-message (something like "there was an
>>>>>> error." not
>>>>>> very helpful)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have any clues what my problems could be? I just
>>>>>> installed the
>>>>>> latest VM with the link given on the moose-page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you very much
>>>>>> michael waelti
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose
>>>>>
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>>>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch
>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> "Presenting is storytelling."
>>>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> "What is more important: To be happy, or to make happy?"
>>
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Michael Waelti <m.waelti(a)gmx.ch>
> Date: October 31, 2008 1:42:46 PM CEST
> To: moose(a)iam.unibe.ch
> Subject: [Moose] Installation troubles
>
> hello,
>
> I just tried to install moose and it seems as if I'm unable to do it
> properly. As I haven't found anything online, I wanted to ask you
> wether
> you had the same problems as well:
>
> If I use the ready-to-use distribution, I can install it under Ubuntu
> 8.04 and Windows XP, but when I try to start it, I just get a window
> without any content and the title "exception"
>
> If i try to use the parcel version, after some loading and
> installing it
> aborts with a error-message (something like "there was an error." not
> very helpful)
>
> Do you have any clues what my problems could be? I just installed the
> latest VM with the link given on the moose-page.
>
> thank you very much
> michael waelti
> _______________________________________________
> Moose mailing list
> Moose(a)iam.unibe.ch
> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose
Hi all,
for me Mondrian works again at least, now ...
I found a problem with parsing a method leading to "an empty method body"
when I directly loaded from Smalltalk. Now, I reconciled that package from
StORE and reloaded the model and everything's fine -
Mondrian is not to blame, here.
On the contrary: it's fun.
Many thanks for guiding me through
Thomas Schrader
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I would like to make a llist of the cool algorithms that are in moose
or related artefacts.
I would like to have a list and a simple where it is, what is does and
how to invoke it.
I found
- Dendogram
- SeriationEngine
- TimeWarping
- Stemmer (even if this is not an algotirhm per se)
I could not find the FCA engine of adrian on MooseDev
Stef
Hi,
in the last days I was not able to download anything from the bern
store, because it was too slow.
Is anybody else experiencing this problem, or is something in our
amazing firewall configuration in lugano?
Cheers
Marco
Hi,
There is an error when loading the latest Moose-All-stephane.ducasse.
154 saying that some dependency to Moose-GenericImporter-sd.6 cannot
be found.
Any idea why?
Cheers,
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"Every now and then stop and ask yourself if the war you're fighting
is the right one."
Hi,
Maybe LDTA can be a good venue for some papers related to Moose. I
listed the call below.
Cheers,
Doru
> LDTA: Workshop on Language Descriptions Tools and Applications
>
> ===Call For Papers 2009===
>
> This is the Call For Papers for the Ninth Workshop on Language
> Descriptions, Tools and Applications (LDTA 2009)
>
> LDTA is a two-day satellite event of ETAPS which takes on the 28th and
> 29th of March 2009 in York, England.
>
> ==Scope==
>
> LDTA is an application and tool oriented forum on meta programming in
> a broad sense. A meta program is a program that takes other programs
> as input or output. The focus of LDTA is on generated or otherwise
> efficiently implemented meta programs, possibly using high level
> descriptions of programming languages. Tools and techniques presented
> at LDTA are usually applicable in the context of "Language
> Workbenches" or "Meta Programming Systems" or simply as parts of
> advanced programming environments or IDEs. The applications areas
> include, but are not limited to:
> * Program analysis, transformation, generation and verification
> * Implementation of Domain Specific Languages (both visual and
> textual)
> * Reverse engineering and reengineering
> * Refactoring and other source-to-source transformations
> * Application modelling (MDE, MDA, Software Factories, Software
> product lines)
> * Grammar engineering / Grammarware
> * Language definition and language prototyping
> * Debugging, profiling and testing
> * IDE construction
> * Compiler construction
>
> LDTA is a well-established workshop next to other conferences and
> workshops on (programming) language engineering topics such as SLE and
> GPCE.LDTA is traditionally a forum where computer science theories are
> put to the test of real-world software engineering issues, for example
> by applying:
>
> * context-free grammars to parser generation for real programming
> languages,
> * attribute grammars to static analyzer and compiler generation,
> * term rewriting to source-to-source transformation,
> * action semantics to programming language implementation,
> * model checking to software verification.
>
> Note that LDTA solicits submissions from any technological or
> theoretical domain, as long as the paper is within the application
> scope.
>
> ==Submission Procedure and Publication==
>
> Submissions in the following categories are admissible:
> * research papers,
> * tool papers,
> * experience papers
>
> The final versions of accepted papers will probably(*) be published in
> Electronic Notes in Theoretical Computer Science (ENTCS), Elsevier
> Science, and will be made available during the workshop. (*)Due to
> organizational changes at Elsevier, publication by ENTCS publication
> is provisional; another comparable venue will be found otherwise.
>
> Each submission must:
> * clearly and unambiguously state in which of the three categories
> it falls
> * be original, i.e. not published or submitted elsewhere,
> * contain a clear motivation,
> * contain a thorough analysis of the claimed contributions (for
> example by comparing to related work),
> * be written in less than 15 pages (research papers and experience
> reports), or less than 10 pages (tool papers)
> * use the ENTCS style.
>
> The authors of each submission are required to give a presentation at
> LDTA 2009. The authors of the tool papers are required to include an
> interactive demonstration in their presentations.
>
> The authors of the best papers will be invited to write a journal
> version of their paper which will be separately reviewed and, assuming
> acceptance, be published in journal form. As in past years, this will
> be done in a special issue devoted to LDTA 2009 of the journal Science
> of Computer Programming (Elsevier Science).
>
> The authors of the best tool papers will be invited to write a paper
> and submit the source of code of their tool, which will both be
> separately reviewed and, assuming acceptance, be published in the
> special issue on Experimental Software and Toolkits (EST) of the
> journal Science of Computer Programming (Elsevier Science).
>
> Please submit your abstract and paper using
> http://www.easychair.org/conferences/?conf=ldta2009
>
> ==Program Committee==
>
> Jurgen Vinju, CWI, Amsterdam (co-chair)
> Torbjörn Ekman, Oxford, UK (co-chair)
> Erik Meijer, Microsoft, Redmond, USA
> Walid Taha, Rice University, Houston USA
> Bob Fuhrer, IBM TJ Watson, USA
> Susan Eisenbach, Imperial College, UK
> Jean-Marie Jacquet, FUNDP, Namur, Belgium
> Sibylle Schuppe, Chalmers, Sweden
> Elizabeth Scott, RHUL, UK
> Robert Grimm, NYU, USA
> Judith Bishop, Pretoria, South Africa
> Tudor Girba, Univ of Berne, Switzerland
> Marjan Mernik, University of Maribor, Slovenia
> Thomas Dean, Fondazione Bruno Kessler - IRST, Italy
> Martin Bravenboer, Univ. of Oregon, USA
> Pierre-Etienne Moreau, INRIA-LORIA, France
> Gabi Taentzer, Philipps-Universität Marburg, Germany
> Joao Saraiva, Universidade do Minho, Braga, Portugal
> Tijs van der Storm, CWI, The Netherlands
> Stephen Edwards, Columbia University, USA
> Peter Thiemann, Universität Freiburg, Germany
>
> ==Important Dates==
>
> Abstract submission deadline:Friday November 28th, 2008
> Paper submission deadline:Friday December 5th, 2008
> Notification of acceptance:Friday February 6th, 2009
> Workshop date:28th and 29th of March, 2009
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Hi Alexandre,
tx for answering.
>> I had a problem with a MOOSE Config loaded into our productive 7.5
>> image yesterday from Berne StORE.
>> UndefinedObject from a call to command mondrianValue: entity
>> command was #WLOC
> Is the code you loaded available somewhere? How did you load it? Using
> the moose browser?
The model I actually work on is not small (Smalltalk, 1.5 Mio entities,
750 kLOC) and unfortunately the code base is not public. I first loaded
Moose Config into the productive image and loaded the model via the
Moose browser from the top bundle in the productive image. (There
is currently some packaging/bundling issue, which I cannot influence
today so that unfortunately the model won't load from StORE directly.)
The model loads; but it does not work entirely correct. Showing #WLOC in
the Moose browser works fine forEach class. Rendering system complexity
fails due to undefined values for #WLOC (???)
Loading some sub-bundle or package from a deeper level works fine,
too; there's no such issue - only for the whole top bundle which makes
it uneasy to track that down.
Debugging the bundling seems a top issue to me ...
Can the problem possibly result from broken bundling in your opinion?
Regards
Thomas Schrader
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(Sorry for all the funny characters in my previous post; I haven't
slept so much last night.)
So, again: I had a problem with a new MOOSE Config loaded into
our productive 7.5 image yesterday from Berne StORE (The week
before it worked greatly).
On rendering a system complexity with any class group
I got an UndefinedObject from any call to
command mondrianValue: entity (r:#WLOC)
so SmallInteger>>max: did fail.
Is there any idea what the reason could be? I still do not
understand that sort of bug too well (at least the Moose
browser shows the correct #WLOC forEach class).
Tx a lot
Thomas
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Hi everybody,
I had a problem with a MOOSE Config loaded into our productive 7.5 image yesterday from Berne StORE.
On rendering a system complexity with any class group I got an UndefinedObject from a call to Žself command mondrianValue: entityŽ with Žself command = #WLOCŽ and for instance (not that it matters) ŽentityŽ = a SCG.Moose.FAMIXClass #'Root::Smalltalk::Tools::SmalltalkWorkbench'
so ŽSmallInteger>>max:Ž did fail.
Is there any idea what the reason could be? Is this a model-loading issue, perhaps?
Thank you so much
Thomas Schrader
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Sometimes I have no idea what to do
and I'm stuck
belongsTo
<MSEProperty: #belongsTo type: #FAMIXContainerEntity> <derived>
^self shoudBeImplemented
what does it means?
Why there is no instance variable somehow related to belongsTo in
FamixNamedEntity?
Yes I feel a bit alone some times.....
Stef
Looking at SqMoose, how do I get a Fame description from the Moose
entity?
It looks like if I send a #mooseDescription message to this entity,
the model will be initialized/accessed through MooseModel class>>meta.
However not sure what is the metamodel in this case: is it Famix?
Because there is also a MooseModel class#initializeFAMIXDescriptions
Anyway, the protocol described in the Sosym paper is different, so
it's disturbing!
--
Simon
I updated the iPlasma page on the moose website:
http://moose.unibe.ch/docs/faq/importWithiPlasma
People wanting to conduct an experiment over C or C++ code might find
this interesting.
Cheers,
Alexandre
On 21 Oct 2008, at 09:58, Tudor Girba wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Could you add an entry in the documentation for this one?
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On Oct 21, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>
>> Thanks Radu,
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alexandre
>>
>>
>> On 21 Oct 2008, at 09:47, Radu Marinescu wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> there is no HOWTO (at least none that I know of... may be Doru has
>>> one). But here is in brief how you should do it.
>>>
>>> 1. Go on a Windows machine (VM is also ok)
>>> 2. From the iPlasma package go to iPlasma/tools/mcc and start
>>> mcc.exe with the following parameters
>>> mcc <source_folder> <dat_folder>
>>> whereby <source_folder> = the root folder of your source files
>>> (take care to indicate a folder that includes BOTH .c and the
>>> HEADER files .h !!)
>>> <dat_folder> = is a folder that you create somewhere on the
>>> disk. It's the place where mcc will place its results. After
>>> mcc.exe has run, the <dat_folder> should contain a set of *.dat
>>> files.
>>>
>>> 3. From the iPlasma package go to iPlasma/tools/iPlasma folder and
>>> depending on the machine you are using start iPlasma using
>>> build.sh (on UNIX/Mac) resp. insider.bat (on Windows)
>>>
>>> 4. After the GUI of iPlasma (called Insider) started select from
>>> the menu Load | C++ (from Mcc tables) ... as in the first figure.
>>> <pastedGraphic.tiff>
>>>
>>> 5. In the "Model loader" that will open in the "Source path" edit
>>> field specify the <dat_folder> created in Step 2. You don't have
>>> to write anything in the "Cache file name" field.
>>>
>>> 6. After the model has bee created from the *.dat files found in
>>> the <dat_folder>, in the right panel right-click on the root
>>> entity (the System) and from the pop-up menu select "Run Tool...|
>>> Moose MSE Exporter" . In the window that will pop-up you have to
>>> specify the name of the MSE file to be created (with complete
>>> path!)... and wait until the MSE file is created.
>>> For large projects this might take a while, and unfortunately
>>> there is no progress bar, nor any obvious sign that the process is
>>> completed. You can check that the process is completed in 2 ways:
>>> a. check that the MSE file stops to be modified (in Finder)
>>> b. check if the iPlasma frontend is responsive (if it is then the
>>> process is finished)
>>>
>>> <pastedGraphic.tiff>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope this helps!
>>>
>>> Concerning the other enhancements, although we are late compared
>>> to what we promised, the update will arrive very soon (hopefully
>>> earlier than a week from today).
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> radu.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
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>>> www.intooitus.com/inCode.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> I went through http://loose.upt.ro/iplasma/, but I am unsure how
>>>> to generate MSE files from a set of .c files.
>>>> I do not know how to generate tables from MCC, MEMORIA.
>>>>
>>>> Is there a short howto on this?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
>>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:
>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>
> "In a world where everything is moving ever faster,
> one might have better chances to win by moving slower."
>
>
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Hello,
I search a visualization that help me easily to see the evolution of
entities. Something like what you can see in the attached file.
I do not remember what is the name of a such style of visualization
but I just remember that Doru showed me a visualization very similar
on Mondrian but I do not remember what was the name of the methode...
can some one help me to know if a such visualization is implemented
somewhere?
thanks,
Hani
Hi hernan
I will describe the current situation and point to where we need help.
There are two versions of Moose: VWMoose and SQMoose
We are porting VWMoose to SQMoose.
Now in VW
the metamodel FAMIX2.0 is described using the META framework
in Sq
we will be migrating to FAMIX30 which is described using FAME
(already done)
We have FAMIX20 (not totally described in FAME)
Now to support the migration
I'm finishing the importer from Sq -> FAMIX20
So that I can do the importer Sq -> FAMIX30.
I'm currently working
on supporting classVariables reification.
I'm working on the merging of class and metaclass (I'm rewriting some
tests to check name clashes).
For that I started to migrate some methods defined on CodeFoo:
flatCollect, CollectAsSet:....
Now here are a list of points to help:
- fix the Visitor named VWVisitorParseTree since it was based on the
default
VWAST while the importer in VW was using RBVisitor
-> we should migrate the code to RBVisitor
- check the tests
- back port the shortcut we introduced in SqMoose to VWMoose
(normally alex and simon should do that)
the idea is to have
(TheRoot>>#foo) mooseName : may be we should also have
TheRoot m: #foo that returns a moose Name
TheRoot@#AClassVar
to build a method name and a class name
- We need a UI. The idea is to use FAME metadescription and
interpret to build automatically UI (maybe using OB).
- check the pragma to see if this is working
- Migrate FAMIX20 behavior to SQMoose FAMIX20 and FAMIX30.
Now if nobody does it then it will not be there.
- Define FAMIX30 in VW.
Check what should be done to make VWMoose working on top of FAMIX30
- Define Cook extension on top of FAMIX30.
- Start to migrate the other packages of VWMoose
- dynamix
- Check mondrian extension
-
On Oct 19, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
> Stephane tu as une liste ToDo ou quelque documentation pour aider
> dans Moose ?
> Bonne journée
>
> Hernán
>
> 2008/10/10 stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>
> hernan
> we are currently porting moose to squeak.
> After we will have DSM, package blueprint, dsitribution map, (check
> our papers).
>
> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/Publications.html
>
> Stef
>
>
>
> On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:36 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>
> 2008/10/9 Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>
> Cool, user interface.
>
> However, you do not detect two other important static dependencies:
>
> - Package A subclasses a class of package B.
> - Package A extends a class of package B.
>
> Yes, I was aware of loose methods (I'm interpreting extends here
> means LM) and hierarchy references, and my idea was to add an
> OBColumn next to the code pane like
>
> http://mail.wiresong.ca/pipermail/ob-dev/attachments/20080923/e19a0b11/atta…
>
> but it seems OmniBrowser do not allow this easily (creating a new
> column in a subclass of the traditional Standard Browser is even
> harder). You'll notice if I'm succeded in the next version :)
>
>
> We are using a similar tool to package Seaside. Unfortunately it has
> no GUI, but we are using GraphViz zu visualize the dependencies [1].
>
> That is the original idea. I have never tried GraphViz, but from the
> image in the link I can see GraphViz is able to ensure disjointness
> between nodes but the image looks confusing, tangled, from an user's
> perception view. It seems like the layout adjustement algorithm were
> unable to preserve symmetries from an input (or breaks down the
> topology for the sake of preserving a proximity model).
>
> Is there a link explaining how to use GraphVIz from Squeak? I
> presume if graphs could be showed inside the Squeak image, the whole
> and details view problem could be solved, achieving simultaneity and
> uniqueness (that means, facilities like the fish-eye view enabling
> different magnification ratios).
>
>
> Have a look at Package-Dependencies in
> <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted>. It automatically calculates
> cycles and is able to hide transitive dependencies. It would be
> interesting to extend it further to also take selectors into account,
> that are only implemented in a single package.
>
> I will take a look at it.
> Cheers.
>
> Hernán
>
>
>
> There are other tools available: MudPie [2] and Moose [3].
>
> Cheers,
> Lukas
>
> [1] http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/dropbox/seaside-2.9/seaside.png
> [2] http://map.squeak.org/package/617dbc24-e029-4d8c-a941-68db8c867952
> [3] http://moose.unibe.ch/
>
> On 10/9/08, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 03:17:40PM -0300, Hern??n Morales Durand
> wrote:
> > > Dear Squeakers,
> > > If you ever wondered how to observe dependencies between
> packages in the
> > > image, now you can use this new Dependency Browser.
> Instructions for using
> > > it are in the following pages:
> > >
> > > Castellano : http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/DBrowser-es.php
> >
> > > Fran??ais : http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/DBrowser-fr.php
> >
> > > English : http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/DBrowser-en.php
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> >
> > > Hern??n
> >
> > I have not installed this to try it yet, but the DependencyWalker
> looks
> > like a really interesting idea!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> Lukas Renggli
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Hello,
Really after one hour of thinking that somewhere there is a bug I
found the selectors
InheritanceDefinition>>superClass
and
InheritanceDefinition>>subClass
which are not accessors and they are different of:
InheritanceDefinition>>superclass
and
InheritanceDefinition>>subclass.
Could you please illustrate why we need the selectors #superClass and
#subClass when we have the accessors #superclass and #subclass?
Specially, could you explain why both return a group that will always
contain one, and only one, element?
thanks,
hani
Hi adrian
I was wondering which meta models you have expressed in FAME?
we have FAMIX30. Now did you give a try to model EMOF?
Now do you think that it would be possible to redo the import
of EMOF sara and pierrick did but using FAME?
Of course we would have the same limits with multiple inheritance.
Stef