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Re: Famix 3.0
by Stéphane Ducasse 18 Sep '11

18 Sep '11

On Sep 18, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Marianne Huchard wrote: > Bonjour tous les deux, > > J'ai lu le document du méta-modèle, j'ai installé Moose maintenant si vous pouvez me donner une indication pour ouvrir le méta-modèle, ça m'aidera car j'ai travaillé sur papier seulement. si tu ouvres un browser de code apres tu peux chercher FamixClass par exemple et sur le code class. Si tu cliques sur le menu principal (fond d'ecran) Moose MooseMetaBrowser tu obtiens un outil pour parcourir les metamodeles. > Pour le rapport, il faudra que l'on rédige un texte descriptif général du méta-modèle qui en donne les orientations principales avant de se lancer dans le détail classe par classe. Je peux faire ça si j'ai un schéma. Oui on doit faire cela. > Voici ce qui m'a sauté aux yeux dans cette première lecture. Marianne cela serait bien d'utiliser la mailing list moose car doru et simon la lise > > - les associations sont seulement binaires > > - je note qu'il y a un certain nombre d'attributs qui ne stocke pas "le modèle" lui-même mais plutôt des statistiques sur l'élément (ex nombre de lignes de code dans un namespace) > Donc sur les paquetages, on pourrait ajouter d'autres métriques plus précises que le nombre de paquetages clients (ex. nombre de classes clientes, type de client - par quelle relation on est client) ? > Cela va nous demander une petite analyse, à moins que ce ne soit assez facile ? Il y a un package Cook et un autre chef (these hani) qui calcule plein de metriques sur les pacjage > - Est-ce que si on veut modéliser des relations entre paquetages on pourra utiliser des instances d'"Association" ? je ne sais pas mais a priori pourquoi pas. > > - en Java, est-ce supposé être exhaustif ? par forcement car pour nos analyses il se peut que l'on en ait pas besoin. > -- dans les types paramétrés, on ne voit pas les bornes (comme pour <A extends Comparable>) > -- je n'ai pas vu les types interfaces, la relation implements les interfaces sont gerees comme des classes abstraites > Ensuite les questions qui se posent sont : > - dériverons-nous de Famix-core notre modèle de package si on veut y ajouter des choses (je suppose que oui) et dans ce cas, comment cette dérivation se situe-t-elle par rapport au modèle Java par exemple ou Smalltalk (elle va rester parallèle ?). en fait tu peux faire cela dans un package que l'on charge ou pas. Normalement (mais on ne l'a jamais vriament utiliser) FAME permet la definition incremental d'elements (c'est pour cela qu'il y a un tag package) car on pourrait groupe dans un package fame (au metamodel) les extensions que l'on veut faire. Maintenant dans la pratique on code cela en Smalltalk et le mecanisme d'extension des packages Smalltalk est utilise. > Y a-t-il dans Famix une relation "merge" entre packages semblable à celle du méta-modèle UML ? > - qu'ajouterons-nous : j'en discute avec Roland puisque nous devons faire le délivrable > "Model for modular abstractions in current languages" je ne sais pas. Notre objectif est - ameliorer la documentation de famix dans moose - creer un document de references (tech report) sur famix 3.0 apres on peut faire des plugins Bon j'ai fait une passe sur mon budget et mardi andre revient et on va planifier une ou deux dates pour venir vous voir. Stef > > A suivre ! > Marianne > > > > >

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Re: info abour moose data extractor
by Stéphane Ducasse 16 Sep '11

16 Sep '11

On Sep 16, 2011, at 5:46 PM, mpescuma(a)libero.it wrote: > Hi Stephane... > I'm a developer that needs to extract some information from moose analysis (ex. properties and its values) ... exists a way to do this from a java or c++ program without launching the moose user interface ? You can script moose by passing a script on the command line. You could also conect via a socket. > My goal is this: starting from a java project, build with inFusion the .mse project... then without launching the moose user interfarce extract the moose analysis with specific library API (has the moose an api library ?) ... building around this a my program or user interface. > Can I access to moose analisys using a specific library ? Exists this way ? If yes, how can do it ? No for the moment the VM does not let us simply talk to objects inside it. > If no, can moose suite produce a file (or something of equivalent) with his analysis of the project, the same that I can see with the user interface ? sure there exporters in tab separated formats. Now writing a specific exporter should be easy and I would look at the one that export and filter mse files. Andre (when you are back from holidays) can you give michele some pointers? > > thanks a lot, > Michele.

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still glamour-magritte doubts
by Esteban Lorenzano 16 Sep '11

16 Sep '11

Hi, I'm making some progress here... but now I need another feature. As I'm using glamour and magritte to present some data who is persistent, I need to being able to react to a #save call on a magritte presentation. For instance... in my browser: ... browser transmit to: #detail; from: #list; andShow: [ :presenter | presenter magritte title: [ :anItem | anItem asString ]; act: [ :presentation :anItem | self removeItem: anItem ] icon: LWUIIcons / #userTrash entitled: 'Borrar' ]. ... how can I know if user pressed #save and there is a modified object there? (to update persistent repository) working with plain magritte, I'd do: ... anObject asMorph onAnswer: [ :value | blah, blah ]; morph. ... ...so... is there a way in glamour to react to updated objects? cheers, Esteban

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Need VerveineJ help
by Usman Bhatti 15 Sep '11

15 Sep '11

Hello, I am running two different versions of VerveineJ and I have two different problems: 1. When running the following command from the freshly downloaded verveineJ sh verveinej.sh -Xmx 2000m - /Users/ubhatti/Desktop/moosedata/Openbravo-3.0MP2.1/src/org/openbravo/ I get: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalStateException: invalid environment settings at org.eclipse.jdt.core.dom.ASTParser.getClasspath(ASTParser.java:248) at org.eclipse.jdt.core.dom.ASTParser.createASTs(ASTParser.java:970) at fr.inria.verveine.extractor.java.VerveineJParser.parse(Unknown Source) at fr.inria.verveine.extractor.java.VerveineJParser.main(Unknown Source) 2. When running this command on a copy of VJ downloaded in June and running this command: sh verveinej.sh -Xmx 4000m - /Users/ubhatti/Desktop/moosedata/Openbravo-3.0MP2.1/src/ I get: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor23.invoke(Unknown Source) at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) at ch.akuhn.fame.internal.MethodAccess.write(MethodAccess.java:98) at ch.akuhn.fame.fm3.PropertyDescription.writeAll(PropertyDescription.java:334) at ch.akuhn.fame.parser.Importer$Elem$Attr.maybeEnd(Importer.java:95) at ch.akuhn.fame.parser.Importer$Elem$Attr.endAttribute(Importer.java:85) at ch.akuhn.fame.parser.Importer$Elem.endAttribute(Importer.java:126) at ch.akuhn.fame.parser.Importer.endAttribute(Importer.java:233) at ch.akuhn.fame.parser.Parser.attributeNode(Parser.java:123) at ch.akuhn.fame.parser.Parser.elementNode(Parser.java:166) at ch.akuhn.fame.parser.Parser.accept(Parser.java:105) at ch.akuhn.fame.parser.Importer.readFrom(Importer.java:269) at ch.akuhn.fame.Repository.importMSE(Repository.java:195) at ch.akuhn.fame.Repository.importMSEFile(Repository.java:200) at fr.inria.verveine.core.VerveineParser.linkToExisting(Unknown Source) at fr.inria.verveine.extractor.java.VerveineJParser.parse(Unknown Source) at fr.inria.verveine.extractor.java.VerveineJParser.main(Unknown Source) The second problem is about parameterizing the VM. I have tried various parameters but its not working. I'm surely doing something wrong here but cant figure it out. thanx in advance, Usman

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Glamour problem. Presentations not being updated
by Esteban Lorenzano 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

Hi, I'm again working with glamour. I have this browser: buildBrowser | browser | browser := GLMTabulator new column: #list; column: #detail; yourself. browser transmit to: #list; andShow: [ :presenter | presenter list title: [ self crudClass description label ]; act: [ self addItem ] icon: LWUIIcons / #listAdd entitled: 'Agregar'; selectionAct:[ :presentation :anItem | self removeItem: anItem ] icon: LWUIIcons / #userTrash entitled: 'Borrar'; updateOn: LWUIItemRemoved from: [ self announcer ]; display: [ self itemsSortedIfNecessary ] ]. browser transmit to: #detail; from: #list; andShow: [ :presenter | presenter magritte title: [ :anItem | anItem asString ]; updateOn: LWUIItemRemoved from: [ self announcer ]; act: [ :presentation :anItem | self removeItem: anItem ] icon: LWUIIcons / #userTrash entitled: 'Borrar' ]. ^browser (don't take into account the spanish words :) ) the idea is this: I'm making a simple CRUD for some classes... and this is the problem: 1) when calling "removeItem", I update the list, and everything works fine... but I removed an element from the list, so... selection shouldn't be valid anymore, and the magritte presentation should be erased... and this does not happens. 2) I added the #updateOn:from: send to magritte presentation to see if something happens... and no, it never receives the update :( so... I think there is a need to fix both problems: list presentations should trigger transmit update if selection no longer valid, and magritte presentation should react to updates. Is that ok? cheers, Esteban

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horizontal tree in Mondrian
by Usman Bhatti 14 Sep '11

14 Sep '11

Hi, I am trying to replicate the figure present on the following webpage: http://www.themoosebook.org/book/internals/famix/core The purpose is to include the figure in the document describing Famix 3.0 in detail. So far working through examples, I have been able to produce this script: |famixClasses| famixClasses := (FAMIXEntity withAllSubclasses select: [: aClass | aClass name beginsWith: 'FAMIX']). view shape rectangle withText size: 10. view nodes: famixClasses. view shape: (MOOrthoHorizontalLineShape new). view edgesFrom: #superclass. view horizontalDominanceTreeLayout horizontalGap: 20; verticalGap: 7. I need help in removing Famix from the prefix of the class names and add attribute information in a UML like format. thanx Usman

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does <package: > support method extensions?
by Usman Bhatti 13 Sep '11

13 Sep '11

Hi guys I would like to know if at the fame level we can tag a method as an extension of a fame package. I saw that class implements annotation methods which contain this tag and I'm curious. I thought that we could do it with fame (when I remember the meta model of fame). I imagine that I can query all the methods with that label but does fame infrastructure provides a query? Then I was thinking that we get comment at the meta level but this is not the case (is it true?) so for now we will use Smalltalk class comments. Stef

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FM3 comment access?
by Usman Bhatti 12 Sep '11

12 Sep '11

How can I access the comment once I get the FM3Description? For example below I would like to access the MSEComment. to motivate an asnwer: after we will go over all the comments (class comment and attribute comments and write them in a nice way and generate a documentation automatically isWrite <MSEProperty: #isWrite type: #Boolean> <MSEComment: 'Write access'> ^isWrite Tx Stef

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are there cases where there is no opposite
by Usman Bhatti 12 Sep '11

12 Sep '11

Hi guys are there cases where we do not have opposite at the fame level? Stef

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about isContainer
by Usman Bhatti 12 Sep '11

12 Sep '11

Hi guys Stef and usman hacking ... Questions: FMPropertyDescription has a method isContainer and we were wondering when it is true? Stef

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