Moose-dev July 2010

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Using moose for other things than analyzing source code
by Alexandre Bergel 15 Jul '10

15 Jul '10

Hi guys, In Avispa[1] and Adore/S[2] we created small meta models that reason on software processes (task, role and artifact) and business processes. This is done without extending Famix then. So, if you're looking for some arguments for using Moose for other things than analyzing source code, then you have some examples. Cheers, Alexandre [1] http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/ProcessModel [2] http://www.moosetechnology.org/tools/Adore -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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lexer/scanner
by Ross Boylan 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

I have a narrow question and a broader one. The narrow question is how to get SmaCC into the prepackaged moose image. I tried to file in SmaCCDev-lr.23.mcz from squeak source (version 24 is for Pharo 1.1, which I don't think the moose image is using). It failed because it needed SmaCCParser and SmaCCScanner classes. http://www.squeaksource.com/SmaccDevelopment.html says the run time is already in the image; perhaps it's been stripped out? The broader question is whether anyone has any advice on approaching my problem of parsing SAS files. Advice could be pointers to other lexer/scanners or the news that PEG (i.e., PetitParser) works OK for my purposes (I may want to use it for the parsing, but this is about dealing with the macro language). To give a taste of the detailed issues: a macro variable reference, &V, can occur almost anywhere in a SAS program (but not inside of some comments and some quotes). It is immediately expanded; this may occur in the middle of what looks like a token, e.g. (1) data run&V; becomes (2) data run04 (start=5); In perverse cases one could even have (3) da&v become (2), including the semicolon. Macro variables obey scoping rules. There are also macro invocations like %mymacro(3, abc) which expand at the closing parenthesis. %INCLUDE brings a whole file into the source. And the macro language itself has conditional and looping constructs. As an added bonus, SAS macros are not simple preprocessors, since their expansion can depend on information obtained in the main language at runtime (in fact, macros can be written at run time). It's unlikely I'll ever attempt to handle that case, however. Essentially, there are 2 or 3 different syntaxes operating in the same program (the main syntax, the macro language, and the expansion of macro variables via &). This was the setup for the initial Conway paper on coroutines. I don't currently see any gain from using coroutines.

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removed MooseModel always in memory
by Laval Jannik 13 Jul '10

13 Jul '10

Hi all, I play with Moose in Pharo1.2. It seems that a removed model is always in memory. I explain: - I loaded Pharo in moose, my image grows and its size is 320Mo. - I removed the model, then my image size should be 100Mo, but it is still 320Mo. Can anyone reproduce it ? How can I debug it ? Is there a pointerFinder in Pharo ? Cheers, --- Jannik Laval

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Fwd: [Seaside] Looking for smart and good programmers? Attend the premium conference on Smalltalk!
by Mariano Martinez Peck 12 Jul '10

12 Jul '10

I guess it can be interested for you also. ESUG will be happy if you help to do some buzz about the conference. Forwarding emails to other mailing lists, post in your blogs, twitter, facebook, etc, always help. It would be great to expand the community and forward this email to other communities like ruby, python, linux, etc.... For more details: http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 Cheers Mariano ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> Date: Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM Subject: [Seaside] Looking for smart and good programmers? Attend the premium conference on Smalltalk! To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> We are all looking for smart and good people... Now the best to get in touch with them is to go where they go and have a nice beer with them. Did you think about coming to ESUG the key world conference on Smalltalk to meet talented people? Did you think about sponsoring ESUG so that programmers get aware of your business? Regularly we pass job interview at ESUG. Why not you? Each year ESUG offers the possibility to young guys to participate to ESUG as student volunteers you can also come and talk to them. Some data: Amsterdam 170 participants Brest 154 Barcelona The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month to go). So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server. http://registration.esug.org/ This server comes with new features. You can now do a group registration and make a single payment. Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum sponsors). The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as promising as was for the previous editions of the conference. Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web, http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 See you in Barcelona, ESUG board. _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

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we should register http://www.mondrian-script.org/
by stephane ducasse 11 Jul '10

11 Jul '10

now it is free. Any takers? Stef

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Mondrian Health Report
by Alexandre Bergel 10 Jul '10

10 Jul '10

Hi, I just run the mondrian benchmarks. For archive. Thanks to your bug reports, I fixed a number of problems when displaying edges. We are now significantly faster when displaying edges. We had " 300 edges => 134138 ms" on April 6, 2010. Report produced on 2010-07-09T11:27:57+02:00 Benchmark ManyNode (simple rendering of nodes) : 100 nodes => 7 ms 200 nodes => 12 ms 300 nodes => 17 ms 400 nodes => 24 ms 500 nodes => 29 ms 600 nodes => 35 ms 700 nodes => 40 ms 800 nodes => 47 ms 900 nodes => 53 ms 1000 nodes => 58 ms 1600 nodes => 93 ms 3200 nodes => 187 ms 6400 nodes => 371 ms Benchmark ManyEdges (simple rendering of edges) : 10 edges => 2 ms 20 edges => 9 ms 30 edges => 22 ms 40 edges => 41 ms 50 edges => 70 ms 60 edges => 110 ms 70 edges => 164 ms 80 edges => 235 ms 90 edges => 324 ms 100 edges => 435 ms 200 edges => 5151 ms 300 edges => 37560 ms Benchmark ManyInnerNodes : 5 nodes => 176 ms 10 nodes => 2267 ms 15 nodes => 11122 ms Benchmark Displaying ManyInnerNodes : 5 nodes => 172 ms 10 nodes => 937 ms 15 nodes => 7937 ms Benchmark Displaying ManyInnerNodesAndEdges : 1 nodes => 11 ms 2 nodes => 240 ms 3 nodes => 3241 ms 4 nodes => 31246 ms Benchmark Displaying elementAt : 100 nodes => 3 ms 500 nodes => 5 ms 1000 nodes => 8 ms 1500 nodes => 10 ms 2000 nodes => 14 ms 2500 nodes => 16 ms Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

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Mondrian edges interaction
by Laval Jannik 09 Jul '10

09 Jul '10

Hi all, Is it possible to build interaction on edges ? I would like to have a popup and a menu. Cheers, --- Jannik Laval

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Questions about Distribution Map Tool
by Paulo Júnior 08 Jul '10

08 Jul '10

Dear developers. I'm trying to execute Moose Tool with Distribution Map, but I can't. I didn't find a tutorial or example emphasizing the use of this tool. I would like to test Distribution Map with other applications. Would you can give me more informations about how to install and execute the Moose tool with Distribution Map? Thanks a lot. Best regards. Paulo Junior _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

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Glamour: read-only text and closing
by Johan Fabry 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Hi Doru, all, I have 2 quick Glamour questions: - how can I have a text (GLMTextPresentation) that is read-only, preferably with a grey background, so that it looks like a label or status line ? - how do I programatically close the browser, e.g. from within a button in the browser itself? Thanks in advance! -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

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Redrawing a view from within Mondrian
by Simon Denier 07 Jul '10

07 Jul '10

Is there a way to ask Mondrian to redraw itself when the structure of nodes has changed. I have a view with some options. When an option is activated, it actually adds new nodes to the view, hence the layout needs to be computed again. I tried 'view updateWindow' but it does not work. -- Simon

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