Moose-dev May 2007

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what will happen if stub do not have belongsTo?
by Stéphane Ducasse 19 May '07

19 May '07

I do not remember :) and in the ST extractor I reified all the namespaces (and forgot what is happening for the root). Stef

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Re: Inheritance Definition - Again
by Tudor Girba 19 May '07

19 May '07

Hi, In general, a relationship requires your knowledge about both ends. If you have only half of the information, the model will be in an incomplete state, and analyses typically suppose the model is complete. But, in particular, you are asking if a class having no children shouldn't appear in Inheritance Relationships. Well, in this case, it is not that you do not know the other half of the information, but you certainly know there is no relationship. To state this, the simplest thing is to not have the relationship in the model :). Perhaps the confusion comes from not knowing what is required and what is not. But, the problem of required is only valid for properties of entities, not for entities. Thus, the properties "superclass" and "subclass" are required for an InheritanceDefinition, but we do not require an InheritanceDefinition for each Class. And please ask as many questions as you need, and do not be stressed about our time too much (at least not until we said so) :). Cheers, Doru On May 18, 2007, at 6:07 PM, Muhammad Bhatti wrote: > Thanx Tudor, the response was quick and it worked!! > I would like some more precision regarding my question about > absence of child > classes: what do we do for the relationships whose one entity > doesn't exist, do > we not consider them? For example, a class having no children > shouldn't appear > in Inheritance Relationship? If no, how do we represent them? I am > working on a > system where inheritance is very rarely used and thus these > relationships will > not appear in MOOSE. > > thanx once more for your time, > > usman > > Selon Tudor Girba <girba(a)iam.unibe.ch>: > >> Hi Usman, >> >>> 1. What I understood from the earlier discussion: we do generate >>> Inheritance >>> definitions for framework classes/system classes that are >>> referenced by user >>> defined classes. My questions is that what does their inheritance >>> definition >>> look like. In the simplest case, the inheritance definition for a >>> system class >>> may look like this (my assumption: we discard the belongsTo >>> attribute): >>> >>> FAMIX.Class >>> { >>> id: 121 >>> name: 'FrameworkClass' >>> stub: true >>> } >> >> I do not understand this question. >> >>> 2. What about the inheritance definition of user definied classes >>> that do not >>> have any children. How do we assign their subclass attribute. I >>> have tried the >>> following by putting stub: true >>> >>> (FAMIX.InheritanceDefinition >>> (id: 18) >>> (stub true) >>> (subclass 0) >>> (superclass 5) >>> ) >>> But it didn't work. >> >> There are several reasons why it did not work. >> >> First, the inheritance definition is between 2 ***existent*** >> classes, not between a class and its non existent children. So, in >> this case, because an entity with id = 0 does not exist you would get >> an error when loading the file. >> >> Second, it also would not work because whenever you make a reference >> to an entity via an id, you have to use (idref: xxx). Thus, an >> inheritance definition would look like: >> (FAMIX.InheritanceDefinition >> (id: ZZZ) >> (subclass (idref: XXX)) >> (superclass (idref: YYY)) >> ) >> >> Furthermore, we usually do not mark stub the relationships, but we >> mark as stub only the structural entities. Thus, if the superclass is >> stub, we know the inheritance points to an outside class. >> >> I attached here the corrected file. >> >> For a more detailed example of a valid MSE file, please take a >> look at: >> http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/moose/lansamplemodel/?action=MimeView >> >> -- >> Ce message a ete verifie par MailScanner >> pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de >> suspect n'a ete trouve. >> >> > > > -- > Muhammad Bhatti > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > -- > Ce message a ete verifie par MailScanner > pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de > suspect n'a ete trouve. > -- Tudor Girba www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba www.iam.unibe.ch/~girba/blog/ "No matter how many recipes we'll know, we'll still value a chef."

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Hismo problems
by Richard Wettel 19 May '07

19 May '07

Hi, I am trying to see what it is possible to do with Hismo. After building a ModelHistory, I tried to inspect different entities here. The first problem that I bumped into is with NamespaceHistory. If I try to call allClassHistories on a NamespaceHistory instance, it tries to call #computeSubHistories:computedForEachVersionAs:withDescription:, which does not seem to be implemented anywhere. Any clues on how to make this work? The purpose of this is to be able to build package histories from namespace histories of Java systems (for instance, org.bla.foo namespace will produce three nested packages). I am working with the more-or-less-latest version of Moose, in VW7.5. Thanks, Ricky

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Inheritance Definition - Again
by Muhammad Bhatti 19 May '07

19 May '07

Hi pipole, I would like to ask two novice questions. 1. What I understood from the earlier discussion: we do generate Inheritance definitions for framework classes/system classes that are referenced by user defined classes. My questions is that what does their inheritance definition look like. In the simplest case, the inheritance definition for a system class may look like this (my assumption: we discard the belongsTo attribute): FAMIX.Class { id: 121 name: 'FrameworkClass' stub: true } 2. What about the inheritance definition of user definied classes that do not have any children. How do we assign their subclass attribute. I have tried the following by putting stub: true (FAMIX.InheritanceDefinition (id: 18) (stub true) (subclass 0) (superclass 5) ) But it didn't work. I generate a file keeping the above defined hypotheses: minimal root definition and subclass=0 definition for classes having no children but the file fails to load in MOOSE. I am attached the file with this mail, just in case. The program defines a simple inheritance hierarchy with only one method. The inheritance hierarchy looks like this: shape <- rectangle,circle,trapezoid rectangle <- square,rectangle1 Circle <- Eclipse For this problem, I would greatly appreciate your help coz IMHO the documentation found on the Web provides several interpretations and can be a misleading. thanx in advance, Usman ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Ce message a ete verifie par MailScanner pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de suspect n'a ete trouve.

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Code Model with Variables
by Mircea Lungu 18 May '07

18 May '07

Hi, Doru introduced me to the SetUp package. I just thought I would share with you one of my favorite prerequisites from the Cincom store, one which I have just realized can't live without: RBCodeModelWithVariables - shows a panel with the instance variables for the current class Hope you find it useful, Mircea.

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user questions
by Mircea Lungu 17 May '07

17 May '07

Hi moosers, This is not directly related to moose, but still... Does anybody know any article which does a survey of the questions that the users ask themselves when faced with the task of understanding a new software system? Thanks, Mircea.

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Framework Files
by Usman Bhatti 17 May '07

17 May '07

Thanx for the earlier responses. I think I got my answer. One more thing if you people can elaborate. How do we represent system classes.... Do we create Famix.Class entries for System classes? thanx once more, usman

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We are working on an importer merging class and metaclass in ST
by Stéphane Ducasse 16 May '07

16 May '07

Hi guys Just that you know with mathieu and hani we are working on an extension of the smalltalk importer that merges class and metaclass so it may introduce some problems and we will fix them. We are writing new tests, cleaning and deprecated methods around the importing context, uzw. Stef

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InheritanceDefinition attribute
by Muhammad Bhatti 16 May '07

16 May '07

Hello all, while extracting the inheritance definition of a class, this question poped up in my mind: how do we specify multiple child classes for a class? Do we create a new InheritanceDefinition for each one of them, which seems to be the case with existing MSE files? For example X <- Y <- A,Z (X is the base class, Y inherits from X, A,Z inherit from Y) In this case, inheritancedefinition parameter for Y will be (format *Class* for elaboration) (FAMIX.InheritanceDefinition (id: 6) (superclass (idref: 1 *X*)) (subclass (idref: 3 *A*)) ) (FAMIX.InheritanceDefinition (id: 7) (superclass (idref: 1 *X*)) (subclass (idref: 4 *Z*)) ) thanx Usman ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- Ce message a ete verifie par MailScanner pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de suspect n'a ete trouve.

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enumeration.
by bouazzpi＠ensieta.fr 16 May '07

16 May '07

Hi, when I look at the OMG EMOF spec, I can see Enumeration as a subclass of DataType. But it is not implemented in the Meta-EMOF-Model package.hank Unfortunately, Enums also exits in Ecore model, so I will certainly need it (as well as EnumLiterals) for my ecore importer. Do you want I to implement them or do you prefer I assimilate them to Emof.Type ? thanks, BOUAZZA Pierrick

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