26 Jan
2010
26 Jan
'10
12:09 p.m.
Hi,
yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using the function
Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model disappear from the list but saving
the image it has the same size. Executing "MooseModel allInstances" I saw that
the model was still there. I tried to close all windows and then i execute "Smalltalk
garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same size because the model has not
been removed.
I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i detect the same error
in an older image: pharo dev image 10502, Moose-Core 208.
Cheers,
Fabrizio
26 Jan
26 Jan
12:20 p.m.
You can maybe check who is pointing to the model. There is a menu in
the inspector.
Alexandre
On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:09, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
Hi,
yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using the
function Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model disappear
from the list but saving the image it has the same size. Executing
"MooseModel allInstances" I saw that the model was still there. I
tried to close all windows and then i execute "Smalltalk
garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same size because
the model has not been removed.
I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i
detect the same error in an older image: pharo dev image 10502,
Moose-Core 208.
Cheers,
Fabrizio
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4:59 p.m.
Hi,
I think it has to do with Glamour. It looks like the Glamour browsers
linger around in the image. I looked briefly for the possible problem,
but I could not find the answer yet though :(.
Cheers,
Doru
On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:20, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
You can maybe check who is pointing to the model.
There is a menu in
the inspector.
Alexandre
On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:09, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
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Hi,
yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using the
function Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model disappear
from the list but saving the image it has the same size. Executing
"MooseModel allInstances" I saw that the model was still there. I
tried to close all windows and then i execute "Smalltalk
garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same size because
the model has not been removed.
I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i
detect the same error in an older image: pharo dev image 10502,
Moose-Core 208.
Cheers,
Fabrizio
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6:51 p.m.
Hi,
i tried to check the pointers to the model opening that menu. My machine start to work at
100% and after 3 hours i didn't have the list of pointers visualized yet. So i decide
to kill the image. The system was surely into an infinite loop (or there were billions of
links so i think that is useless know which they were). I will anyway try to let my
machine work during the night just in the case that i'm wrong :) Meanwhile have you
other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Fabrizio
On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:20, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
You can maybe check who is pointing to the model.
There is a menu in the inspector.
Alexandre
On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:09, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
Fabrizio Perin
Institut fuer Mathematik und Informatik
University Bern, IAM-SCG
Neubrueckstrasse 10
CH-3012 Bern, Switzerland
Tel: +41 31 631 33 13
FAX: +41 31 631 33 55
Hi,
yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using the function
Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model disappear from the list but saving
the image it has the same size. Executing "MooseModel allInstances" I saw that
the model was still there. I tried to close all windows and then i execute "Smalltalk
garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same size because the model has not
been removed.
I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i detect the same error
in an older image: pharo dev image 10502, Moose-Core 208.
Cheers,
Fabrizio
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27 Jan
27 Jan
12:23 a.m.
Hi Fabrizio,
You could probably reproduce this problem in a new smaller image as
well. No need to spend the time doing it on a very large one.
Cheers,
Doru
On 26 Jan 2010, at 18:51, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
Hi,
i tried to check the pointers to the model opening that menu. My
machine start to work at 100% and after 3 hours i didn't have the
list of pointers visualized yet. So i decide to kill the image. The
system was surely into an infinite loop (or there were billions of
links so i think that is useless know which they were). I will
anyway try to let my machine work during the night just in the case
that i'm wrong :) Meanwhile have you other suggestions? Thanks in
advance.
Cheers,
Fabrizio
On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:20, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
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"In a world where everything is moving ever faster,
one might have better chances to win by moving slower."
You can maybe check who is pointing to the model.
There is a menu
in the inspector.
Alexandre
On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:09, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
Fabrizio Perin
Institut fuer Mathematik und Informatik
University Bern, IAM-SCG
Neubrueckstrasse 10
CH-3012 Bern, Switzerland
Tel: +41 31 631 33 13
FAX: +41 31 631 33 55
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https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev Hi,
yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using the
function Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model disappear
from the list but saving the image it has the same size. Executing
"MooseModel allInstances" I saw that the model was still there. I
tried to close all windows and then i execute "Smalltalk
garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same size
because the model has not been removed.
I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i
detect the same error in an older image: pharo dev image 10502,
Moose-Core 208.
Cheers,
Fabrizio
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31 Jan
31 Jan
12:22 a.m.
Hi,
It appeared that this was a critical issue. It took a bit of time to
track it down, and Lukas patiently assisted me in the process :). The
problem was a Glamour one and it was exhibited specifically in the
case of the MoosePanel like this:
Because MoosePanel registers for the announcements from MooseModel
root, even if you close it, this instance of MoosePanel will still be
referenced by the MooseModel root announcer. So, it does not get
garbage collected. And if you opened already a model with this
MoosePanel, this model will still be referenced by the Panel, and so
it won't get collected.
The current solution is that when the Glamour Morphic window is
closed, the announcements are unregistered from all enclosed
presentation.
So, it means that in the case of MoosePanel, the garbage collector
will do its job only after you close the MoosePanel. It's not nice,
but it is the current solution.
See http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/detail?id=314. I
will keep it open for a while. Please let me know if you find more
leakage.
Cheers,
Doru
On 27 Jan 2010, at 00:23, Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi Fabrizio,
You could probably reproduce this problem in a new smaller image as
well. No need to spend the time doing it on a very large one.
Cheers,
Doru
On 26 Jan 2010, at 18:51, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
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"The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal."
Hi,
i tried to check the pointers to the model opening that menu. My
machine start to work at 100% and after 3 hours i didn't have the
list of pointers visualized yet. So i decide to kill the image. The
system was surely into an infinite loop (or there were billions of
links so i think that is useless know which they were). I will
anyway try to let my machine work during the night just in the case
that i'm wrong :) Meanwhile have you other suggestions? Thanks in
advance.
Cheers,
Fabrizio
On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:20, Alexandre Bergel wrote:
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www.tudorgirba.com
"In a world where everything is moving ever faster,
one might have better chances to win by moving slower."
You can maybe check who is pointing to the model.
There is a menu
in the inspector.
Alexandre
On 26 Jan 2010, at 08:09, Fabrizio Perin wrote:
Fabrizio Perin
Institut fuer Mathematik und Informatik
University Bern, IAM-SCG
Neubrueckstrasse 10
CH-3012 Bern, Switzerland
Tel: +41 31 631 33 13
FAX: +41 31 631 33 55
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yesterday I tried to delete a moose model from my image using
the function Utilities>>Delete on the moose panel. The model
disappear from the list but saving the image it has the same
size. Executing "MooseModel allInstances" I saw that the model
was still there. I tried to close all windows and then i execute
"Smalltalk garbageCollect" and again the saved image has the same
size because the model has not been removed.
I'm working on the pharo dev image 10508, Moose-Core 215 but i
detect the same error in an older image: pharo dev image 10502,
Moose-Core 208.
Cheers,
Fabrizio
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