4 May
2015
4 May
'15
3:33 p.m.
Hi guys,
I’m not experienced in OpenGL, but I’ve noticed that both Roassal3D and Woden occupy a
high level process and are not yielding Processor to anyone else. For example code
highlight, spotter, and other lower priority processes are not working as soon as you open
a 3D visualization. On the other hand this doesn’t happen while using CodeCity (and it
also uses OpenGL). Is it very complicated to make Roassal3D and Woden to respect other
processes?
Uko
4 May
4 May
4:16 p.m.
Hi Yuriy,
Process and OpenGL are a pain in the ass. This is why I hate the Smalltalk
green threads, for the following reasons:
- Operating system Thread Local Storage is not respected. The current
OpenGL is a thread local variable.
- No completely preemptive.
Making Woden and Woden-Roassal to have a lower priority is a problem,
because of reduced performance in Woden. When using OpenGL, the functions
glFinish or SwapBuffers has to be called to force the execution of commands
an display the rendered image in the screen. SwapBuffers usually calls
glFlush. And if, v-sync is enabled, it blocks, which does not get well
Pharo.
With OSWindow, OpenGL can also be used to render the main Pharo window via
SDL2. Because of this, I had to introduce a rendering process in OSWindow,
which I am using to serialize all the OpenGL commands. And I guess that it
also produces a reduction in performance. This thread is located
OSWindowRenderThread.
Perhaps you can fix the problem somewhere in OSWindowRenderThread.
Best regards,
Ronie
2015-05-04 11:36 GMT-03:00 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>om>:
Hi!
This is an excellent question. Ronie?
Alexandre
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On May 4, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
I’m not experienced in OpenGL, but I’ve noticed that both Roassal3D and
Woden occupy a high level process and are not yielding Processor to anyone
else. For example code highlight, spotter, and other lower priority
processes are not working as soon as you open a 3D visualization. On the
other hand this doesn’t happen while using CodeCity (and it also uses
OpenGL). Is it very complicated to make Roassal3D and Woden to respect
other processes?
Uko
4:36 p.m.
Hi!
This is an excellent question. Ronie?
Alexandre
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Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu
^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.
On May 4, 2015, at 9:33 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk
<yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote:
Hi guys,
I’m not experienced in OpenGL, but I’ve noticed that both Roassal3D and Woden occupy a
high level process and are not yielding Processor to anyone else. For example code
highlight, spotter, and other lower priority processes are not working as soon as you open
a 3D visualization. On the other hand this doesn’t happen while using CodeCity (and it
also uses OpenGL). Is it very complicated to make Roassal3D and Woden to respect other
processes?
Uko
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