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stéphane ducasse

18 Sep 2008 18 Sep '08

1:09 p.m.

Hi guys We are looking for a model walker (visitor). Does any one of you already implement one? Stef

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Oscar Nierstrasz

18 Sep 18 Sep

1:18 p.m.

I guess you mean a default visitor with empty visit methods that can be subclassed? Yeah, we need that. - on On Sep 18, 2008, at 13:09, stéphane ducasse wrote:

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Hi guys We are looking for a model walker (visitor). Does any one of you already implement one? Stef _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Stéphane Ducasse

2:05 p.m.

Ok we will code one with hani. Stef On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

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I guess you mean a default visitor with empty visit methods that can be subclassed? Yeah, we need that. - on On Sep 18, 2008, at 13:09, stéphane ducasse wrote:

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Tudor Girba

20 Sep 20 Sep

11:33 p.m.

I am curious about the use case. Could you elaborate a bit on this one? Cheers, Doru On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

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I guess you mean a default visitor with empty visit methods that can be subclassed? Yeah, we need that. - on On Sep 18, 2008, at 13:09, stéphane ducasse wrote:

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Stéphane Ducasse

21 Sep 21 Sep

8:57 a.m.

we would like to copy selectively the model or export it in another format. Stef On Sep 20, 2008, at 11:33 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

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I am curious about the use case. Could you elaborate a bit on this one? Cheers, Doru On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

I guess you mean a default visitor with empty visit methods that can be subclassed? Yeah, we need that. - on On Sep 18, 2008, at 13:09, stéphane ducasse wrote:

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Oscar Nierstrasz

11:33 a.m.

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I am curious about the use case. Could you elaborate a bit on this one? Cheers, Doru On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

I guess you mean a default visitor with empty visit methods that can be subclassed? Yeah, we need that. - on On Sep 18, 2008, at 13:09, stéphane ducasse wrote:

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Stéphane Ducasse

12:44 p.m.

Yes exactly and I would like to use the importingContext of specify how to filter the model but in a conistent manner. Stef On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

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I am curious about the use case. Could you elaborate a bit on this one? Cheers, Doru On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

I guess you mean a default visitor with empty visit methods that can be subclassed? Yeah, we need that. - on On Sep 18, 2008, at 13:09, stéphane ducasse wrote:

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Tudor Girba

1:04 p.m.

It's not that I do not know what a visitor is, I was just curious of the use case, given that we have done quite a bit of things without one :). I believe that most Visitors can be nicely implemented using class extensions. Of course, when you have a tree and a very complex algorithm with many variation points, then having a visitor does improve the situation. But even then, there is no reason for not exposing the service as an extension method that then calls the visitor. This makes life much easier for the client because there is no need to know how to instantiate the visitor. Cheers, Doru On Sep 21, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

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Yes exactly and I would like to use the importingContext of specify how to filter the model but in a conistent manner. Stef On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

I am curious about the use case. Could you elaborate a bit on this one? Cheers, Doru On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

I guess you mean a default visitor with empty visit methods that can be subclassed? Yeah, we need that. - on On Sep 18, 2008, at 13:09, stéphane ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > We are looking for a model walker (visitor). > Does any one of you already implement one? > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Stéphane Ducasse

6:24 p.m.

Doru I think that what I want this is graph traversal that I can specialize and the state of the traversing action should be stored into the model so in a visitor. Stef On Sep 21, 2008, at 1:04 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:

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Yes exactly and I would like to use the importingContext of specify how to filter the model but in a conistent manner. Stef On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

I am curious about the use case. Could you elaborate a bit on this one? Cheers, Doru On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > I guess you mean a default visitor with empty visit methods that > can > be subclassed? > > Yeah, we need that. > > - on > > On Sep 18, 2008, at 13:09, stéphane ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> We are looking for a model walker (visitor). >> Does any one of you already implement one? >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Oscar Nierstrasz

6:36 p.m.

I think both techniques should be supported. There are situations where visitors nicely encapsulate all the visiting behaviour, and others where it makes more sense to consider the extra behaviour as an extension of the structure itself. - on On Sep 21, 2008, at 18:24, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

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Yes exactly and I would like to use the importingContext of specify how to filter the model but in a conistent manner. Stef On Sep 21, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote:

Well, if a visitor has to implement many visit methods, but not all visitors need to do something for visitable items, then it is handy to have a default visitor that implements all the visit methods with empty bodies. You then simply subclass this default visitor and override the few visit methods that you need. There is an example in the compiler construction course. https://www.iam.unibe.ch/scg/svn_repos/Lectures/CompilerConstruction/04Pars… https://www.iam.unibe.ch/scg/svn_repos/Lectures/CompilerConstruction/Exampl… Cheers, - on On Sep 20, 2008, at 23:33, Tudor Girba wrote: > I am curious about the use case. Could you elaborate a bit on this > one? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > >> >> I guess you mean a default visitor with empty visit methods that >> can >> be subclassed? >> >> Yeah, we need that. >> >> - on >> >> On Sep 18, 2008, at 13:09, stéphane ducasse wrote: >> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> We are looking for a model walker (visitor). >>> Does any one of you already implement one? >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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