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Juraj Kubelka

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Tudor Girba

3 Apr 3 Apr

4:18 p.m.

Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to produce the layout. Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi, there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal? Cheers, Jura _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Juraj Kubelka

4:53 p.m.

OK. I will do this :-) Jura 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>

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Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to produce the layout. Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g.

GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

Cheers, Jura _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Juraj Kubelka

5:59 p.m.

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Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to produce the layout. Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g.

GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

Cheers, Jura _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Tudor Girba

6:09 p.m.

Hi, The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out. Cheers, Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Juraj Kubelka

6:17 p.m.

Hi Doru, yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? Jura 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>

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Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:"

sais:

---- "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" ---- Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long time. It

also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image.

I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. Cheers, Jura 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to

produce the layout.

Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> Hi, > > there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g.

GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

Cheers, Jura _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Juraj Kubelka

8:22 p.m.

ok 2013/4/3 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>

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I propose to postpone this layout for later. Alexandre On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Doru, yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? Jura 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> Hi, The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is not

working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out.

Cheers, Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:"

sais:

> > ---- > "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help > Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" > ---- > > Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. > > Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long time.

It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image.

> > I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. > > Cheers, > Jura > > > > 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to

produce the layout.

> > Doru > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > Hi, > > > > there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g.

GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

Cheers, Jura _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Alexandre Bergel

8:27 p.m.

It would be nice to have it. Something we can consider after porting all the Mondrian visualization to Roassal. Alexandre On Apr 3, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote:

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Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to produce the layout. Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Alexandre Bergel

8:29 p.m.

I propose to postpone this layout for later. Alexandre On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Fabrizio Perin

27 May 27 May

1:45 p.m.

Hi, What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows? Cheers, Fabrizio 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com>

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ok 2013/4/3 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>

I propose to postpone this layout for later. Alexandre On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Doru, yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? Jura 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> Hi, The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is not

working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out.

Cheers, Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:"

sais:

It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image.

produce the layout.

> > Doru > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > Hi, > > > > there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g.

GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

> > Cheers, > Jura > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Alexandre Bergel

3:26 p.m.

Which layout in particular are you interested in? Mathieu recently implemented some efficient layouts. Cheers, Alexandre On May 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Fabrizio Perin

6:37 p.m.

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Hi, What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in

Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows?

Cheers, Fabrizio 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> ok 2013/4/3 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> I propose to postpone this layout for later. Alexandre On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> Hi Doru, > > yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? > > Jura > > > 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > Hi, > > The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is

not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out.

> > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:"

sais:

> > > > ---- > > "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help > > Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" > > ---- > > > > Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. > > > > Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long time.

It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image.

> > > > I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. > > > > Cheers, > > Jura > > > > > > > > 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > > Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to

produce the layout.

> > > > Doru > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > Hi, > > > > > > there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations

(e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

Alexandre Bergel

7:35 p.m.

I did not authored the binding Pharo <--> GraphViz. I guess it was using OSProcess. Maybe this binding will be obsolete with NativeBoost around? Can NativeBoosts invokes external processes? Alexandre On May 27, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:" sais: ---- "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" ---- Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long time. It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image. I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. Cheers, Jura 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to produce the layout. Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal? > > Cheers, > Jura > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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Fabrizio Perin

28 May 28 May

9:28 a.m.

Hi, I think that first of all we should adapt the Mondrian graphviz layout than move it to roassal. To do that we should only change the invocation to the graphviz layout (e.g. neato.exe). I don't know if that is possible with NativeBoost and how to do that though. I will look into that now. Any suggestion will be appriciated :) Cheers, Fabrizio 2013/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com>

...

Hi Alex, for now I need a neato layout but will be surely interesting to have

soon all the graphviz layout available. Most important, will I be able to use them under windows?

Thanks a lot, Fabrizio 2013/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> Which layout in particular are you interested in? Mathieu recently implemented some efficient layouts. Cheers, Alexandre On May 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> Hi, > What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in

Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows?

> > Cheers, > Fabrizio > > 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> > ok > > > 2013/4/3 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > I propose to postpone this layout for later. > > Alexandre > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > Hi Doru, > > > > yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? > > > > Jura > > > > > > 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > > Hi, > > > > The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is

not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out.

> > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > Method comment of

"MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:" sais:

> > > > > > ---- > > > "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help > > > Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" > > > ---- > > > > > > Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. > > > > > > Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long

time. It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image.

> > > > > > I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Jura > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > > > Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to

produce the layout.

> > > > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations

(e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

> > > > Cheers, > > Jura > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Fabrizio Perin

12:15 p.m.

Hi, I maneged to make graphviz working under windows. It is a bit hacky but should work in most of the cases. I couldn't commit on the smalltlkhub repo so I attached the mcz here. The folders where the layout look for the executables are: C:\Program Files (x86)\Graphviz2.30\bin and C:\Program Files\Graphviz2.30\bin Also, I don't know why but OSProcess waitForCommand: doesn't work properli. It seems that the process do not terminate and since it never reaches the state complete, you wait forever. The hack I did was to wait not on the process state but on the existance of the file mondrian_plain. So the layout will run the command OSProcess command: bla bla.. and than it will wait until the file mondrian_plain will be created. After that everything is the same. Cheers, Fabrizio 2013/5/28 Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com>

...

Hi Alex, for now I need a neato layout but will be surely interesting to have

soon all the graphviz layout available. Most important, will I be able to use them under windows?

wrote:

> Hi, > What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in

Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows?

wrote:

not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out.

> > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > Method comment of

"MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:" sais:

time. It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image.

to produce the layout.

> > > > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <

Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations

(e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

> > > > > > Cheers, > > > Jura > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moose-dev mailing list > > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Fabrizio Perin

1:58 p.m.

small bugfix attached. Fabrizio 2013/5/28 Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com>

...

Hi Alex, for now I need a neato layout but will be surely interesting to have

soon all the graphviz layout available. Most important, will I be able to use them under windows?

wrote:

> Hi, > What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in

Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows?

wrote:

is not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out.

> > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> > > > > Method comment of

"MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:" sais:

time. It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image.

to produce the layout.

> > > > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <

Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations

(e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

> > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Jura > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Moose-dev mailing list > > > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > > > -- > > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moose-dev mailing list > > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moose-dev mailing list > > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

Tudor Girba

7:02 p.m.

Just commit :) Doru On May 28, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi Doru, yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? Jura 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> Hi, The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out. Cheers, Doru On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:" sais: > > ---- > "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help > Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" > ---- > > Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. > > Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long time. It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image. > > I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. > > Cheers, > Jura > > > > 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to produce the layout. > > Doru > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal? >> >> Cheers, >> Jura >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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8:43 a.m.

Done 2013/5/28 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>

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Just commit :) Doru On May 28, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

small bugfix attached. Fabrizio 2013/5/28 Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> Hi, I maneged to make graphviz working under windows. It is a bit hacky but

should work in most of the cases.

I couldn't commit on the smalltlkhub repo so I attached the mcz here. The folders where the layout look for the executables are: C:\Program Files (x86)\Graphviz2.30\bin and C:\Program Files\Graphviz2.30\bin Also, I don't know why but OSProcess waitForCommand: doesn't work

properli. It seems that the process do not terminate and since it never reaches the state complete, you wait forever. The hack I did was to wait not on the process state but on the existance of the file mondrian_plain. So the layout will run the command OSProcess command: bla bla.. and than it will wait until the file mondrian_plain will be created. After that everything is the same.

Cheers, Fabrizio 2013/5/28 Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> Hi, I think that first of all we should adapt the Mondrian graphviz layout

than move it to roassal. To do that we should only change the invocation to the graphviz layout (e.g. neato.exe). I don't know if that is possible with NativeBoost and how to do that though.

I will look into that now. Any suggestion will be appriciated :) Cheers, Fabrizio 2013/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> I did not authored the binding Pharo <--> GraphViz. I guess it was using

OSProcess.

Maybe this binding will be obsolete with NativeBoost around? Can

NativeBoosts invokes external processes?

Alexandre On May 27, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> Hi Alex, > for now I need a neato layout but will be surely interesting to have

soon all the graphviz layout available. Most important, will I be able to use them under windows?

> > Thanks a lot, > Fabrizio > > > 2013/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > Which layout in particular are you interested in? > Mathieu recently implemented some efficient layouts. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On May 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> >> Hi, >> What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in

Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows?

>> >> Cheers, >> Fabrizio >> >> 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> >> ok >> >> >> 2013/4/3 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> I propose to postpone this layout for later. >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

>> >>> Hi Doru, >>> >>> yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? >>> >>> Jura >>> >>> >>> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is

not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out.

>>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

>>> >>>> Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:"

sais:

>>>> >>>> ---- >>>> "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help >>>> Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. >>>> >>>> Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long time.

It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image.

>>>> >>>> I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jura >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>>> Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to

produce the layout.

>>>> >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g.

GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

>>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jura >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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11:48 p.m.

Where was this committed? I cannot find it... Alexandre On May 29, 2013, at 2:43 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Done 2013/5/28 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> Just commit :) Doru On May 28, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows? Cheers, Fabrizio 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> ok 2013/4/3 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> I propose to postpone this layout for later. Alexandre On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Doru, > > yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? > > Jura > > > 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > Hi, > > The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:" sais: >> >> ---- >> "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help >> Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" >> ---- >> >> Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. >> >> Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long time. It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image. >> >> I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. >> >> Cheers, >> Jura >> >> >> >> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >> Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to produce the layout. >> >> Doru >> >> >> On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jura >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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30 May 30 May

6:56 a.m.

He committed in Mondrian. Doru On May 29, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote:

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Where was this committed? I cannot find it... Alexandre On May 29, 2013, at 2:43 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Done 2013/5/28 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> Just commit :) Doru On May 28, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Alex, for now I need a neato layout but will be surely interesting to have soon all the graphviz layout available. Most important, will I be able to use them under windows? Thanks a lot, Fabrizio 2013/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> Which layout in particular are you interested in? Mathieu recently implemented some efficient layouts. Cheers, Alexandre On May 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows? > > Cheers, > Fabrizio > > 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> > ok > > > 2013/4/3 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > I propose to postpone this layout for later. > > Alexandre > > > On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Doru, >> >> yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? >> >> Jura >> >> >> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >> Hi, >> >> The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:" sais: >>> >>> ---- >>> "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help >>> Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" >>> ---- >>> >>> Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. >>> >>> Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long time. It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image. >>> >>> I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jura >>> >>> >>> >>> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>> Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to produce the layout. >>> >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jura >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every successful trip needs a suitable vehicle." >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev

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12:35 p.m.

Wasn't mondrian the correct repo? 2013/5/30 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>

...

He committed in Mondrian. Doru On May 29, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote:

Where was this committed? I cannot find it... Alexandre On May 29, 2013, at 2:43 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> Done > > 2013/5/28 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > Just commit :) > > Doru > > > On May 28, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

> >> small bugfix attached. >> >> Fabrizio >> >> 2013/5/28 Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> >> Hi, >> I maneged to make graphviz working under windows. It is a bit hacky

but should work in most of the cases.

>> >> I couldn't commit on the smalltlkhub repo so I attached the mcz here. >> >> The folders where the layout look for the executables are: >> C:\Program Files (x86)\Graphviz2.30\bin >> and >> C:\Program Files\Graphviz2.30\bin >> >> Also, I don't know why but OSProcess waitForCommand: doesn't work

>> >> Cheers, >> Fabrizio >> >> >> >> >> 2013/5/28 Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> >> Hi, >> I think that first of all we should adapt the Mondrian graphviz layout

than move it to roassal. To do that we should only change the invocation to the graphviz layout (e.g. neato.exe). I don't know if that is possible with NativeBoost and how to do that though.

>> >> I will look into that now. Any suggestion will be appriciated :) >> >> Cheers, >> Fabrizio >> >> >> 2013/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> I did not authored the binding Pharo <--> GraphViz. I guess it was

using OSProcess.

>> Maybe this binding will be obsolete with NativeBoost around? Can

NativeBoosts invokes external processes?

>> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On May 27, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

>> >>> Hi Alex, >>> for now I need a neato layout but will be surely interesting to have

soon all the graphviz layout available. Most important, will I be able to use them under windows?

>>> >>> Thanks a lot, >>> Fabrizio >>> >>> >>> 2013/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >>> Which layout in particular are you interested in? >>> Mathieu recently implemented some efficient layouts. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> >>> On May 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in

Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows?

>>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Fabrizio >>>> >>>> 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> >>>> ok >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/4/3 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >>>> I propose to postpone this layout for later. >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

>>>> >>>>> Hi Doru, >>>>> >>>>> yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? >>>>> >>>>> Jura >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is

not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out.

>>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

>>>>> >>>>>> Method comment of

"MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:" sais:

>>>>>> >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help >>>>>> Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" >>>>>> ---- >>>>>> >>>>>> Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long

time. It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image.

>>>>>> >>>>>> I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Jura >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>>>>> Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to

produce the layout.

>>>>>> >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com>

wrote:

>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations

(e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). Should I port it into Roassal?

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Yes it is. I just misunderstood. Alexandre On May 30, 2013, at 6:35 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Wasn't mondrian the correct repo? 2013/5/30 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> He committed in Mondrian. Doru On May 29, 2013, at 11:48 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote:

Where was this committed? I cannot find it... Alexandre On May 29, 2013, at 2:43 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Done 2013/5/28 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> Just commit :) Doru On May 28, 2013, at 1:58 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote:

small bugfix attached. Fabrizio 2013/5/28 Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> Hi, I maneged to make graphviz working under windows. It is a bit hacky but should work in most of the cases. I couldn't commit on the smalltlkhub repo so I attached the mcz here. The folders where the layout look for the executables are: C:\Program Files (x86)\Graphviz2.30\bin and C:\Program Files\Graphviz2.30\bin Also, I don't know why but OSProcess waitForCommand: doesn't work properli. It seems that the process do not terminate and since it never reaches the state complete, you wait forever. The hack I did was to wait not on the process state but on the existance of the file mondrian_plain. So the layout will run the command OSProcess command: bla bla.. and than it will wait until the file mondrian_plain will be created. After that everything is the same. Cheers, Fabrizio 2013/5/28 Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> Hi, I think that first of all we should adapt the Mondrian graphviz layout than move it to roassal. To do that we should only change the invocation to the graphviz layout (e.g. neato.exe). I don't know if that is possible with NativeBoost and how to do that though. I will look into that now. Any suggestion will be appriciated :) Cheers, Fabrizio 2013/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> I did not authored the binding Pharo <--> GraphViz. I guess it was using OSProcess. Maybe this binding will be obsolete with NativeBoost around? Can NativeBoosts invokes external processes? Alexandre On May 27, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Alex, > for now I need a neato layout but will be surely interesting to have soon all the graphviz layout available. Most important, will I be able to use them under windows? > > Thanks a lot, > Fabrizio > > > 2013/5/27 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > Which layout in particular are you interested in? > Mathieu recently implemented some efficient layouts. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On May 27, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Fabrizio Perin <fabrizio.perin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> What is the status of this porting? Do we have GraphVizLayout in Roassal? Also, whould it be possible to use it under windows? >> >> Cheers, >> Fabrizio >> >> 2013/4/3 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> >> ok >> >> >> 2013/4/3 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >> I propose to postpone this layout for later. >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Doru, >>> >>> yes, but is that what we want in Roassal? >>> >>> Jura >>> >>> >>> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The layout works, but indeed the particular method you mentioned is not working. Look at doExecute: and you will see that the call is commented out. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Method comment of "MOGraphVizLayout>>applyLayoutToConnections:with:" sais: >>>> >>>> ---- >>>> "The code is broken currently. Waiting for Bryce help >>>> Alexandre.Bergel 8/30/2009 11:40" >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> Method should be called from method #doExecute: but is not. >>>> >>>> Are there real users of this class? It seems broken for a long time. It also uses class MOBoundsWithPoints which is not defined in the image. >>>> >>>> I am not sure if it is worth to do the port into Roassal. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jura >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/4/3 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >>>> Yes, it would be nice. This one uses the external GraphViz tool to produce the layout. >>>> >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Juraj Kubelka <Juraj.Kubelka(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> there is a class MOGraphVizLayout used in some visualisations (e.g. GTVisualizations new viewPragmaConstellation or MooseBrowser>>multiplicationBrowser). 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