2 Sep
2009
2 Sep
'09
2:29 p.m.
I have used Squeak, and I have used Seaside, but it has been a while.
I have brought up the Pier environment on a headless server, and it
looks as if I probably have the ability to configure it, add to it,
etc. But there does not appear to be any documentation for Pier that
is aimed at those who have forgotten what they may ever have learned
about Seaside. I'm going back over the Seaside tutorial, but I
wonder if someone can tell me how to log in to the default Pier
server, the one that comes up when you make minimal changes out of
the box (not even running under Apache). I had a "Log in" link on
the page at one point, made the attempt with no errors reported, and
was unable to edit anything. I think I'm missing a major concept
somehow.
Can anyone suggest what major item I've probably forgotten about
Seaside?
Thanks.
GC
2 Sep
2 Sep
2:52 p.m.
minimal changes out of the box (not even running under
Apache). I had a
"Log in" link on the page at one point, made the attempt with no errors
reported, and was unable to edit anything. I think I'm missing a major
concept somehow.
The default username/password of Pier is admin/pier.
The default username/password of Seaside is admin/seaside.
Can anyone suggest what major item I've probably
forgotten about Seaside?
The basics on Pier are documented here: http://www.piercms.com/doc.
Let us know if you have further questions.
Lukas
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8:33 p.m.
On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
I have now achieved login, can't figure out what was happening before,
and may never. Next, ...
Thanks very much. I'll try to make at least marginal sense.
I want to make a random change on the page, for no other reason than
to see that I can have some effect. So, the way to do that is... Turn
on Halos, I think, and then... OK, in a halo there are icons for Class
Browser, Object Inspector, and CSS Style Editor. And also a pair of
letters, R-ender and S-ource. I can edit the behavior of classes, but
if I want to change the color of one of the text objects, how do I do
that? If I want to change the text itself, how do I do that?
OK, hard things are easy and easy things are hard. The tools seem to
address issues of much greater complexity than I'm able to think about
yet. And I don't see the corresponding tools for doing anything
dead simple. And I have a feeling I'm staring blindly right at it.
Seaside manual maybe? Any section in particular? What I'm trying to
do should be the easy stuff, I would have thought.
I thank you in advance for your help.
minimal
changes out of the box (not even running under Apache). I
had a
"Log in" link on the page at one point, made the attempt with no
errors
reported, and was unable to edit anything. I think I'm missing a
major
concept somehow.
The default username/password of Pier is admin/pier. Can anyone
suggest what major item I've probably forgotten about
Seaside?
The basics on Pier are documented here: http://www.piercms.com/doc.
Let us know if you have further questions.
Lukas
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http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
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9:40 p.m.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Grimble Crumble <morph(a)growler.net> wrote:
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On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
minimal changes out of the box (not even running under Apache). I had a
I have now achieved login, can't figure out what was happening before,
and may never. Next, ...
Can anyone suggest what major item I've probably forgotten about Seaside?
The basics on Pier are documented here: http://www.piercms.com/doc.
Let us know if you have further questions.
Thanks very much. I'll try to make at least marginal sense.
I want to make a random change on the page, for no other reason than
to see that I can have some effect. So, the way to do that is... Turn
on Halos, I think, and then... OK, in a halo there are icons for Class
Browser, Object Inspector, and CSS Style Editor. And also a pair of
letters, R-ender and S-ource. I can edit the behavior of classes, but
if I want to change the color of one of the text objects, how do I do
that? If I want to change the text itself, how do I do that?
After you are logged in, commands show up on the bottom of the page. (Where
the Login link was, NOT the halos toolbar)
Click "Edit" to edit the page.
Click "Remove" to remove it.
Click "Add" to add a sub-page or a file or one of the many components
available.
Click "Edit design" to change the CSS or the layout of the page structure.
Play with it, don't be afraid. the thing to understand is that you are not
really writing any seaside code at this point. You are managing content.
"Log
in" link on the page at one point, made the attempt with no errors
reported, and was unable to edit anything. I think I'm missing a major
concept somehow.
The default username/password of Pier is admin/pier.
OK, hard things are easy and easy things are hard.
The tools seem to
address issues of much greater complexity than I'm able to think about
yet. And I don't see the corresponding tools for doing anything
dead simple. And I have a feeling I'm staring blindly right at it.
See above.
Seaside manual maybe? Any section in particular? What I'm trying to
do should be the easy stuff, I would have thought.
I thank you in advance for your help.
Hope this helped
John
Lukas
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http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
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10:01 p.m.
On Sep 2, 2009, at 9:40 PM, John McKeon wrote:
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Grimble Crumble <morph(a)growler.net>
wrote:
On Sep 2, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
[...]
The basics on Pier are documented here: http://www.piercms.com/doc.
Let us know if you have further questions.
Thanks very much. I'll try to make at least marginal sense.
I want to make a random change on the page, for no other reason than
to see that I can have some effect. So, the way to do that is... Turn
on Halos, I think, and then... OK, in a halo there are icons for Class
Browser, Object Inspector, and CSS Style Editor. And also a pair of
letters, R-ender and S-ource. I can edit the behavior of classes, but
if I want to change the color of one of the text objects, how do I do
that? If I want to change the text itself, how do I do that?
After you are logged in, commands show up on the bottom of the
page. (Where the Login link was, NOT the halos toolbar)
Click "Edit" to edit the page.
Click "Remove" to remove it.
Click "Add" to add a sub-page or a file or one of the many
components available.
Click "Edit design" to change the CSS or the layout of the page
structure.
Play with it, don't be afraid. the thing to understand is that you
are not really writing any seaside code at this point. You are
managing content.
Sure, OK, that's exactly what I want to do. I had to stumble a bit
more, apparently. I appreciate your patience.
Two questions.
1. If I click the Class Browser button, then I *am* modifying code,
right? I mean, I can make changes to class behavior of, ... the Pier
classes?
2. When I clicked Edit, I could totally go to town on the "Welcome
to Pier!" block of text. I still haven't worked out how to affect
the "What's new" block.
[...]
Hope this helped
John
Yes indeed. Thanks.
[...]
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