16 Apr
2010
16 Apr
'10
8:42 p.m.
Dear Nial,
Well if you actually manage to port Margritte and Pier 1.2 to VisualWorks that would be
really Cool (don't hesistate) !
Pier is a cool thing, it doesn't have a lot in common with SeaBreaze and WebVelocity
but simply works to make good web sites.
I am awaiting the day that glorp.org get's on to it.
Sincerely yours,
@+Maarten,
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From: "Niall Ross" <niallfr(a)btinternet.com>
To: "Miguel Sanchez" <mikey.sanchez(a)gmail.com>
Cc: <vwnc(a)cs.uiuc.edu>
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [vwnc] Store Magritte download
Dear Miguel,
proceed as follows
1) Load Porting-NameSpaces CS14.NFR.15. The atomic loader works with
the latest Porting-NameSpaces but it cannot load both the
Porting-NameSpaces system _and_ a FirstFindNameSpace (e.g. Magritte) in
the same atomic operation.
2) Load Magritte-All nfr.295-1 and take latest in repository for all
prompted prereqs.
3) Load MagritteForVisualWorks nfr.295. Instead of (2), you can load
just this, taking Magritte-All version nfr.295-1 as prereq when
prompted. The only reason to load them separately is to observe the
references to a few Undeclared that will appear after Magritte-All is
loaded. After MagritteForVisualWorks is loaded, most of these
Undeclared will say they have no references, since the locations are now
overridden.
Thorsten and I ported the 295 version at ESUG in September last year.
I have also published a version of Pier (lr.183-222-81-99 CS14.NFR.11)
to the repository that prereqs MagritteForVisualWorks and also has a
viable Pier FirstFindNameSpace, so loads OK. The Squeak Pier version
from which this was ported was the current version in late 2007; I will
port a newer version sometime (or will be pleased to discover that
someone else did so ahead of me. :-)
Yours faithfully
Niall Ross
Thanks Alan
Second attempt. No success.
1. I turned off Atomic loading in the settings.
2. Tried loading MagritteForVisualWorks (trs.295,trs)
3. Selected latest package when prompted
4. Got loads of errors on the Magritte.* packages (see below). From
what I can see methods were added to Object and various core classes
but hardly any new classes created. Squeak.* packages loaded fine
I'm not sure if I'm mis-posting this here. I've noticed on this thread
someone forwarding to the seaside mailing list. Perhaps I should post
there instead?
Regards Miguel
Error dump follows All packages gave similar errors.:
Warning: Package "Magritte-Model" cannot be loaded.
The following classes cannot be loaded because their environment is
not in the image nor in the package being loaded:
MAPriorityContainer (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Magritte)
MAPluggableAccessor (environment path: Root.Smalltalk.Magritte)
......
edited for brevity.
On 15/04/2010, at 19:51, Alan Knight <knight(a)acm.org
<mailto:knight@acm.org>> wrote:
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There seems to be an issue there with Magritte
attempting to extend
namespace semantics, and defining a namespace with
defineFirstFindNamespace: ... which the atomic loader does not like.
It looks like someone published a version which claims it deals with
this problem, but it doesn't seem to. You can try going to the Store
settings, and under Loading policies turn off "Use the Atomic
Loader". There are other things you can do, and someone should really
fix that, but that's probably the easiest thing for a beginner.
You probably also want to load MagritteForVisualWorks rather than
Magritte-All. Other than the namespace issue, and a walkback in
trying to initialize, that was fairly easily bypassed, it seemed to
load OK. But I didn't try to run it.
At 09:08 AM 2010-04-15, Miguel Sanchez wrote:
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Hi all,
I would like some assistance in getting Magritte installed from the
public repositroy.
I'm trying, unsuccessfully so far, to load the Magritte package into
VW7.7nc image. After some initial problems with connecting to the
store with James Robertson kindly helped me with I'm connecting
successfully to the store.
As instructed in the package comments I have turned off atomic loads.
I'm first getting Magritte-all (trs,295,trs) and I'm getting loads
of messages with unloadable definitions and the end of which I have
Magritte package definitions and some methods created in existing
classes. I have no (as far as I can tell) Magritte classes created.
As I'm new to VW, the public repository I would appreciate if
someone could give me a pointer to get up and running. Perhaps I'm
trying to load an unstable version, or there is some implicit
dependency on another package.
Best Regards,
Miguel Sanchez
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