I have been having a look around pier for a few days, I am a beginner at this so please bear with me. Is there a way to have a flat wiki? It appears that new pages are instanciated as children by default. This appears to mean that it would be difficult to recreate the kind of c2.com wiki in which a web of new pages are created at the same level. Is there an option somewhere? I am wondering what the design decisions are on this score, it would be interesting to understand the reasoning. The Settings command is not working for me, can anyone enlighten me as to what it does? Although I like the heirarchy very much, I think I would like the option of building a virtual heirarchy via tagging as well as an explict heirarchy via administrative moving within an otherwise flat wiki namespace. I have an implementation of tiddlywiki that does this. If a page is tagged with a tag it becomes a content item in the tag-page. So tagging a page "User" would make that page a child of users. I havent quite got my head around the hidden pages. How does one create a new environment in a subwiki? In zope, (a four letter word!) if I remember correctly a SecurityManager can be installed at any level in the heirarchy. It looks to me like there could be /environment /style /security items at all levels. (how about /.environment /.style /.background /.security) would this be possible? I think that all squeak project creators should be encouraged to write a dissertation. I found Lukas' paper to be excellent. Thank you very much Keith ___________________________________________________________ All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of Vi@gr@! come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html