14 Sep
2005
14 Sep
'05
7:02 a.m.
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Hi,
as probably most of you already know, SmallWiki 2 is very powerfull and
much more than a wiki.
Here is a discussion between Lukas and me:
Lukas: the problem is basically that smallwiki is a very well known name
already
Lukas: the best name we found so far is "Seashell"
Lukas: or just "Shell"
Lukas: but you are right, it is not just a wiki anymore
Damien: Seashell => Seaside and SmallWiki is not Seaside dependent (it
should not in the future at least)
Damien: why Shell ?
Lukas: because a shell is like can contain cool stuff
Lukas: and it is like something that is around your stuff
Lukas: well... if you have better ideas, feel free to open a discussion
in the mailing-list ;-)
Damien: I will try to think about a name. Shell for me is "Bash" or
thing like this.
Lukas: another idea was "Harbour"
Lukas: but i don't like the sound of the word ;-)
Lukas: maybe we should just take something totally unrelated and
abstract, such as magritte
Damien: Harbour is a common name, you won't have the first results in google
Damien: we may construct an abstract name based on this ideas
We are open to ideas from everybody.
Here are some ideas:
Swinaw: SmallWiki is not a wiki
Sinawa: Smallwiki is not a wiki anymore
SmallHarbour
STGW: Small talk, great work
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14 Sep
14 Sep
7:42 a.m.
We are open to ideas from everybody.
Various ideas that Avi told me in the chat today:
Canvas (has nautical meaning)
Easel
Seaside On Sails / Bicycle / ...
Skate (which is interesting because it's also an aquatic creature)
Manta (a kind of ray which is like a skate, but kind of a nice
name)
I like the last one the most ;-)
Lukas
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Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
7:54 a.m.
Hi Lukas,
good idea to think of a new name - SW2 is *so* much more than a
wiki!
How about using a seaside resort name? Brighton, for example? Pick
your favorite!
Not that I don't like Manta and Skate (my favorite, fast and hip)
I'd steer clear of Seaside On Sails - you're *not* copying the R
framework ;-)
Have fun choosing, it's your baby!
Ian.
On 14 Sep 2005, at 07:42, Lukas Renggli wrote:
We are open to
ideas from everybody.
Various ideas that Avi told me in the chat today:
Canvas (has nautical meaning)
Easel
Seaside On Sails / Bicycle / ...
Skate (which is interesting because it's also an aquatic creature)
Manta (a kind of ray which is like a skate, but kind of a nice
name)
I like the last one the most ;-)
Lukas
--
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
7:59 a.m.
On Sep 13, 2005, at 10:54 PM, Ian Prince wrote:
Hi Lukas,
good idea to think of a new name - SW2 is *so* much more than a
wiki!
How about using a seaside resort name? Brighton, for example? Pick
your favorite!
I like the idea of using a seaside resort (I've always been fond of
using place names for things), but I think you need to pick one
that's easier to pronounce. Having recently returned from the
Netherlands, there's an obvious candidate: Scheveningen. It's the
resort just north of The Hague...
;)
Avi
8:14 a.m.
Hi Lukas,
good idea to think of a new name - SW2 is *so* much more than
a wiki!
How about using a seaside resort name? Brighton, for example? Pick
your favorite!
I like the idea of using a seaside resort (I've always been fond of
using place names for things), but I think you need to pick one
that's easier to pronounce. Having recently returned from the
Netherlands, there's an obvious candidate: Scheveningen. It's the
resort just north of The Hague... 
2:23 p.m.
New subject: CSS
Bonjour Stéphane,
Que penses-tu de mon code CSS pour générer du seaside ??
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6:13 p.m.
New subject: CSS
je ne sais pas.
Je ne connais rien a css et je ne suis pas expert seaside non plus.
Juste je sais que Seaside est bon.
Stef
Bonjour
Stéphane,
Que penses-tu de mon code CSS pour générer du seaside ??
=================
Annick Fron - 04 93 22 88 18
AFC Europe
B.P. 111
977 avenue du Docteur Julien Lefebvre
06271 Villeneuve-Loubet Cedex France
http://www.afceurope.com
7:01 p.m.
New subject: CSS
Hi,
I think this is a very interesting idea to generate the Seaside code
using an XSL transformation. Especially when starting with a new
project and getting a template from a web-designer it used to be very
nasty to get started. Copying the automatically generated code to
Squeak and using the Refactoring-Browser to decompose it into a
couple of small methods is really cool.
I tried to convert www.netstyle.ch using your XSL and made two
observations:
- Usually we produce XHTML sites with heavily nested div and span
tags, the XSL doesn't seem to handle these properly. I think it is
less important to support input-fields, since those require manual
work anyway or are even created using Magritte.
- I am using the canvas rendering framework for all my new code.
Lukas
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Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
15 Sep
15 Sep
12:01 a.m.
New subject: CSS
OK thanks,
If you find it a good idea, I'll add the spans and divs, only one
rewrite rule ..
I was lazy in the implementation waiting to know if this echoed ....
I'll do that on Friday.
Best regards,
Annick
Le 14 sept. 05 à 19:01, Lukas Renggli a écrit :
Hi,
I think this is a very interesting idea to generate the Seaside
code using an XSL transformation. Especially when starting with a
new project and getting a template from a web-designer it used to
be very nasty to get started. Copying the automatically generated
code to Squeak and using the Refactoring-Browser to decompose it
into a couple of small methods is really cool.
I tried to convert www.netstyle.ch using your XSL and made two
observations:
- Usually we produce XHTML sites with heavily nested div and span
tags, the XSL doesn't seem to handle these properly. I think it is
less important to support input-fields, since those require manual
work anyway or are even created using Magritte.
- I am using the canvas rendering framework for all my new code.
Lukas
--
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
14 Sep
14 Sep
9:44 p.m.
Hi Lukas,
good idea to think of a new name - SW2 is *so* much more than
a wiki!
How about using a seaside resort name? Brighton, for example?
Pick your favorite!
I like the idea of using a seaside resort (I've always been fond
of using place names for things), but I think you need to pick one
that's easier to pronounce. Having recently returned from the
Netherlands, there's an obvious candidate: Scheveningen. It's the
resort just north of The Hague...
15 Sep
15 Sep
8:31 a.m.
with this logo that I did thinking about a name for something related
to seaside :)
to say look how this is easy to do something and cool
On 14 sept. 05, at 21:44, Eric Tanter wrote:
Why not Antwerpen
this way we are sure that not a single french guy can pronounce
it :)))
If you're thinking of seaside resorts, why not consider "real" ones??
I mean, north of Europe is fine, but not the definite place for
beach resorts, I guess :-P
Among the nice onces, why not Copacabana? at least everybody starts
dreaming when hearing this name (or at least, should!)
-- Eric
Hi Lukas,
good idea to think of a new name - SW2 is *so* much more
than a wiki!
How about using a seaside resort name? Brighton, for example?
Pick your favorite!
I like the idea of using a seaside resort (I've always been fond
of using place names for things), but I think you need to pick
one that's easier to pronounce. Having recently returned from
the Netherlands, there's an obvious candidate: Scheveningen.
It's the resort just north of The Hague...
14 Sep
14 Sep
9:15 a.m.
Lukas Renggli wrote:
Skate (which is interesting because it's also an aquatic creature)
My favourite!
Manta (a kind of ray which is like a skate, but
kind of a nice name)
Manta reminds me on the car Opel Manta and the left extremities of the
driver hanging out the window :-)
What about <Reef>?
best regards
Chris Burkert
--
http://www.chrisburkert.de/
3:34 p.m.
On 9/14/05, Giovanni Corriga <giovanni(a)corriga.net> wrote:
Il giorno mer, 14/09/2005 alle 09.15 +0200, Chris
Burkert ha scritto:
What about something way off topic: Arteria? From Dictionary.com --
"a blood vessel that carries blood from the heart to the body". I
could think of all sorts of wonderful metaphors that this name could
suggest.
--
Jason Rogers
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I,
but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in
the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved
me, and gave himself for me."
Galatians 2:20
What about <Reef>?
I like it! 
16 Sep
16 Sep
10:23 p.m.
Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)laposte.net> writes:
Swinaw: SmallWiki is not a wiki
Sinawa: Smallwiki is not a wiki anymore
SmallHarbour
Hi !
I like the idea like "Smallwiki is not a wiki", because SW2 is related
to Magritte, who paints the famous "This is not a pipe", and SW2 is
much more than a wiki. Magritte paints also the "pandore box", so to
keep the theme, I propose "Pandore". It gives the feeling that
wonderful things could pop up from this new tools...
My 2 cents ;-)
Samir
19 Sep
19 Sep
2:23 p.m.
From a thread in the Seaside list Lukas said:
"SmallWiki is much more
than just a wiki"
So how about Simmtjaw? Or Swimmtjaw?
Or better yet just Swimm -- "SmallWiki is much more"?!
On 9/16/05, Samir Saidani <saidani(a)info.unicaen.fr> wrote:
Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)laposte.net>
writes:
--
Jason Rogers
"I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I,
but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in
the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved
me, and gave himself for me."
Galatians 2:20
Swinaw: SmallWiki is not a wiki
Sinawa: Smallwiki is not a wiki anymore
SmallHarbour
Hi !
I like the idea like "Smallwiki is not a wiki", because SW2 is related
to Magritte, who paints the famous "This is not a pipe", and SW2 is
much more than a wiki. Magritte paints also the "pandore box", so to
keep the theme, I propose "Pandore". It gives the feeling that
wonderful things could pop up from this new tools...
My 2 cents ;-)
Samir
21 Sep
21 Sep
6:15 p.m.
Hey,
I just created a wiki page to choose a name:
http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/smallwiki/smallwiki2/thinkaboutanewname/
Please move up the name you like and down the name you hate.
Bye
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Damien
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