Greetings! My error was in attempting to run pier with magritte still 30 versions behind. Now that I have tested it with an up-to-date magritte, the seaside-magma-pier instructions that I have previously posted to the smallwiki mailing list should now work. In summary: 1) Load seaside and pier as usual, update to at least Seaside 2.7a1-kph.214 because that has a small fix in it. 2) Load the latest Magma from squeaksource project, MagmaTester, package MagmaServerLoader. 3) Load Pier-Magma, and Pier-PersistencyManager packages Everything has a UI from there. Configure your app to have WAMagmaConfiguration, and WAMagmaSharedSession. Use the 'magma' dispatcher editor plugin link to initialize the database, and the 'pier' dispatcher editor plugin link to switch your pier kernel between persistency schemes. (i.e. to turn PRMagmaPersistency on/off). best regards Keith _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki