i know, i know .. this subject has been talked to death... i just took one final look at it, an i was wondering if i am just crazy here.. http://www.codingforhire.com/2011/02/getting-rid-of-session-data-in-piercms… i REALLY don't want to beat a dead horse.. but i can't quit thinking that this is important. thanks! -- ---- peace, sergio photographer, journalist, visionary http://www.CodingForHire.com http://www.coffee-black.com http://www.painlessfrugality.com http://www.twitter.com/sergio_101 http://www.facebook.com/sergio101 _______________________________________________ Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki