The story so far.... you need Seaside latest (Scriptaculous latest optional) you need Pier you need Magma, MagmaServerLoader from squeaksource/Magma or squeaksource/MagmaTester you need 'Magma seaside' from squeaksource/MagmaTester you need Pier-Magma from the pier repository. you will also need Pier-Seaside-kph.80 or greater and Pier-Model-kph.79 or greater these are my changes to Pier that have yet to be ratified by Lukas. ---- With all of that loaded. 1. In pier configuration, add the WAMagmaConfiguration to the configuation panels. 2. override the magma repository setting, and 'Magma Control Panel' should appear. 3. Enter a directory name for your pier repository (it doesnt have to be a fully qualified pathname) e.g. 'magma-pier' click 'Save' to accept this setting 4. Click on 'Magma Control Panel', which will inform you that the repository does not exist. 4a. If you are on seasidehosting then you will have to manually create the repository directory. 5. Given the list of options as to what repository to create, click the 'create' button (and wait). 6. The existing pier kernel should appear in the list with a 'persist' button next to it, click 'persist'. 7. Try it and see! I am about to go and try my own instructions out, and then I shall upload a preloaded image to ftp.seasidehosting.st username: preloaded password: squeak let me know how you get on Keith ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" – The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html