20 Aug
2008
20 Aug
'08
9:42 p.m.
What are the most common questions about Pier. I am trying to set up a site
to with tutorials, and Pier resources, and I want to know which questions I
should answer first.
The site is at http://w337.uni.cc/Projects/Pier
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
20 Aug
20 Aug
9:53 p.m.
O my, let me start with things that I havent easily found answers to
so far:
1. ( since answered ) how does one change the layout?
2. ( found buried in archives ) how you set up public/admin interfaces?
3. what on earth are all these components? i've been sticking them in
and i dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
4. what is the general architecture? i think many questions i have
could be answered if i understand how things fit together.
right now its 48+ hours of poking around the interface and the
code with no idea what i am even looking for. its very discouraging and
feels like i could spend an eternity before i understand the
basic architecture and can then really start to understand everything
else.
come to think of it.
#4 is the big one.
i have no idea how everything interoperates, what is lurking just
beneath the hood so, its very hard even for the motivated adopter ( or
at least this one )
not to get really discouraged.
On Aug 20, 2008, at 3:42 PM, David Zmick wrote:
What are the most common questions about Pier. I am
trying to set
up a site to with tutorials, and Pier resources, and I want to know
which questions I should answer first.
The site is at http://w337.uni.cc/Projects/Pier
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________
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10:07 p.m.
ok, architecture, like some kind of, here is Pier, now lets make it do
something, an "idiots guide"!
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>wrote;wrote:
O my, let me start with things that I havent easily
found answers to so
far:
1. ( since answered ) how does one change the layout?
2. ( found buried in archives ) how you set up public/admin interfaces?
3. what on earth are all these components? i've been sticking them in and i
dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
4. what is the general architecture? i think many questions i have could be
answered if i understand how things fit together.
right now its 48+ hours of poking around the interface and the code
with no idea what i am even looking for. its very discouraging and
feels like i could spend an eternity before i understand the basic
architecture and can then really start to understand everything else.
come to think of it.
#4 is the big one.
i have no idea how everything interoperates, what is lurking just beneath
the hood so, its very hard even for the motivated adopter ( or at least this
one )
not to get really discouraged.
On Aug 20, 2008, at 3:42 PM, David Zmick wrote:
What are the most common questions about Pier. I am trying to set up a
site to with tutorials, and Pier resources, and I want to know which
questions I should answer first.
The site is at http://w337.uni.cc/Projects/Pier
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________
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--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
11:03 p.m.
2008/8/20 Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>om>:
O my, let me start with things that I havent easily
found answers to so far:
1. ( since answered ) how does one change the layout?
edit the environment pages. By default, there's only one here:
http://localhost:8888/seaside/pier/environment
Go there
Log as admin
Edit the page
2. ( found buried in archives ) how you set up
public/admin interfaces?
Create an admin page
Put several components (system, user, group)
Make it only viewable only for admin's
3. what on earth are all these components? i've
been sticking them in and i
dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
Some are used internally
by Pier.
Some are intended for the mangement of Pier (like user...)
Some are just seaside component that answer canBeRoot true
...
Yes I also think this is something we could improve... :)
4. what is the general architecture? i think many
questions i have could be
answered if i understand how things fit together.
right now its 48+ hours of poking around the interface and the code
with no idea what i am even looking for. its very discouraging and
feels like i could spend an eternity before i understand the basic
architecture and can then really start to understand everything else.
come to think of it.
It depends if you want to understant the architecture of Pier or the
arhitecture of a Pier site, the kernel. The former is explained here:
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/pier under documentation
and essentially http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Reports/Reng07c.pdf
Did you look at the videos ? Did they help ?
#4 is the big one.
i have no idea how everything interoperates, what is lurking just beneath
the hood so,
see there:
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Reports/Reng07c.pdf
Cheers,
Cédrick
one )
not to get really discouraged.
On Aug 20, 2008, at 3:42 PM, David Zmick wrote:
What are the most common questions about Pier. I am trying to set up a site
to with tutorials, and Pier resources, and I want to know which questions I
should answer first.
The site is at http://w337.uni.cc/Projects/Pier
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
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11:09 p.m.
#4 is the big
one.
i have no idea how everything interoperates, what is lurking just beneath
the hood so,
see there:
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Reports/Reng07c.pdf Cheers,
Cédrick
11:12 p.m.
Better still, use the Edit Design command. If it is not loaded in your
image, you can find it in the Pier-Design package from the pieraddons
repository.
The Edit Design (or Ctrl+D in Safari) command allows you to edit the
environment and the css directly from the page your are at without
requiring a change of the context to go to the actual environment page.
Cheers,
Doru
On Aug 20, 2008, at 11:03 PM, cdrick wrote:
--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.tudorgirba.com/blog
"There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them."
1. ( since
answered ) how does one change the layout?
edit the environment pages. By default, there's only one here:
http://localhost:8888/seaside/pier/environment
Go there
Log as admin
Edit the page
21 Aug
21 Aug
12:43 a.m.
4. what is the general architecture? i think many questions i have
could be
answered if i understand how things fit together.
right now its 48+ hours of poking around the interface and the
code
with no idea what i am even looking for. its very discouraging and
feels like i could spend an eternity before i understand the
basic
architecture and can then really start to understand everything else.
come to think of it.
It depends if you want to understant the architecture of Pier or the
arhitecture of a Pier site, the kernel. The former is explained here:
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/pier under documentation
and essentially http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Reports/Reng07c.pdf
now this. this is good stuff.
this is going to help TONS. thank you very much for that pointer.
( and ya, say the http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Archive/Diploma/Reng06a.pdf
update link )
Did you look at the videos ? Did they help ?
a little but not with this particular point.
12:45 a.m.
On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, cdrick wrote:
Are there good resources to learn about these or should i just be
happy knowing that
in time it will come to me and it isnt important right now?
That is the other thing with lack of documentation. You don't know
what you need
to know now and what can wait.
3. what on earth are all these components? i've been sticking them
in and i
dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
Some are used internally
by Pier.
Some are intended for the mangement of Pier (like user...)
Some are just seaside component that answer canBeRoot true
...
Yes I also think this is something we could improve... :)
11:34 p.m.
I don't think I am going to write a tutorial, but more of a reference. With
things like Pier Structure, what the components do etc.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>wrote;wrote:
On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, cdrick wrote:
Are there good resources to learn about these or should i just be
happy knowing that
in time it will come to me and it isnt important right now?
That is the other thing with lack of documentation. You don't know
what you need
to know now and what can wait.
_______________________________________________
SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
3. what on earth are all these components? i've been sticking them
in and i
dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
Some are used internally
by Pier.
Some are intended for the mangement of Pier (like user...)
Some are just seaside component that answer canBeRoot true
...
Yes I also think this is something we could improve... :)
11:58 p.m.
a reference would be excellent.
On Aug 21, 2008, at 5:34 PM, David Zmick wrote:
I don't think I am going to write a tutorial, but
more of a
reference. With things like Pier Structure, what the components do
etc.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com
Are there good resources to learn about these or should i just be
happy knowing that
in time it will come to me and it isnt important right now?
That is the other thing with lack of documentation. You don't know
what you need
to know now and what can wait.
_______________________________________________
SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________
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wrote:
On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, cdrick wrote:
3. what on earth are all these components? i've been sticking them
in and i
dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
Some are used internally
by Pier.
Some are intended for the mangement of Pier (like user...)
Some are just seaside component that answer canBeRoot true
...
Yes I also think this is something we could improve... :)
22 Aug
22 Aug
12:01 a.m.
ok, good, I am still making a "Getting Started", but it is going to be very
basic.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>wrote;wrote:
a reference would be excellent.
On Aug 21, 2008, at 5:34 PM, David Zmick wrote:
I don't think I am going to write a tutorial, but more of a reference.
With things like Pier Structure, what the components do etc.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>wrote;wrote:
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, cdrick wrote:
Are there good resources to learn about these or should i just be
happy knowing that
in time it will come to me and it isnt important right now?
That is the other thing with lack of documentation. You don't know
what you need
to know now and what can wait.
_______________________________________________
SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
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3. what on earth are all these components? i've been sticking them
in and i
dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
Some are used internally
by Pier.
Some are intended for the mangement of Pier (like user...)
Some are just seaside component that answer canBeRoot true
...
Yes I also think this is something we could improve... :)
12:44 a.m.
Done with the VERY VERY basic getting started.
http://w337.uni.cc/Projects/Pier/starting
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:01 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:
ok, good, I am still making a "Getting
Started", but it is going to be very
basic.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>wrote;wrote:
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
a reference would be excellent.
On Aug 21, 2008, at 5:34 PM, David Zmick wrote:
I don't think I am going to write a tutorial, but more of a reference.
With things like Pier Structure, what the components do etc.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>wrote;wrote:
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, cdrick wrote:
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
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>
> 3. what on earth are all these components? i've been sticking them
> in and i
> dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
> like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
Some are used internally by Pier.
Some are intended for the mangement of Pier (like user...)
Some are just seaside component that answer canBeRoot true
...
Yes I also think this is something we could improve... :)
Are there good resources to learn about these or should i just be
happy knowing that
in time it will come to me and it isnt important right now?
That is the other thing with lack of documentation. You don't know
what you need
to know now and what can wait.
_______________________________________________
SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
11:04 a.m.
I get a " Error: "/seaside/pier/Projects/Pier/starting" not found. "
on that :-(
-- Matthias
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:44 AM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Done with the VERY VERY basic getting started.
http://w337.uni.cc/Projects/Pier/starting
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:01 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:
ok, good, I am still making a "Getting Started", but it is going to be
very basic.
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>
wrote:
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
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a reference would be excellent.
On Aug 21, 2008, at 5:34 PM, David Zmick wrote:
I don't think I am going to write a tutorial, but more of a reference.
With things like Pier Structure, what the components do etc.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Sean Allen <sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>
wrote:
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, cdrick wrote:
>>
>> 3. what on earth are all these components? i've been sticking them
>> in and i
>> dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
>> like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
> Some are used internally by Pier.
> Some are intended for the mangement of Pier (like user...)
> Some are just seaside component that answer canBeRoot true
> ...
> Yes I also think this is something we could improve... :)
Are there good resources to learn about these or should i just be
happy knowing that
in time it will come to me and it isnt important right now?
That is the other thing with lack of documentation. You don't know
what you need
to know now and what can wait.
_______________________________________________
SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ...
https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
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4:21 p.m.
sorry, I redid the whole server last night http://w337.uni.cc/Pier/Resources
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Matthias Berth <
matthias.berth(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
I get a " Error:
"/seaside/pier/Projects/Pier/starting" not found. " on
that :-(
-- Matthias
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:44 AM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
Done with the VERY VERY basic getting started.
http://w337.uni.cc/Projects/Pier/starting
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 5:01 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> ok, good, I am still making a "Getting Started", but it is going to be
> very basic.
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Sean Allen <
sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> a reference would be excellent.
>> On Aug 21, 2008, at 5:34 PM, David Zmick wrote:
>>
>> I don't think I am going to write a tutorial, but more of a reference.
>> With things like Pier Structure, what the components do etc.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Sean Allen <
sean(a)monkeysnatchbanana.com>
wrote:
>
> On Aug 20, 2008, at 5:03 PM, cdrick wrote:
>
> >>
> >> 3. what on earth are all these components? i've been sticking them
> >> in and i
> >> dont know what 99% of them are or what they are good for.
> >> like the html compontent. huh? it isnt very obvious.
> > Some are used internally by Pier.
> > Some are intended for the mangement of Pier (like user...)
> > Some are just seaside component that answer canBeRoot true
> > ...
> > Yes I also think this is something we could improve... :)
>
> Are there good resources to learn about these or should i just be
> happy knowing that
> in time it will come to me and it isnt important right now?
>
> That is the other thing with lack of documentation. You don't know
> what you need
> to know now and what can wait.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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20 Aug
20 Aug
10:35 p.m.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:42 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:
What are the most common questions about Pier. I am
trying to set up a site
to with tutorials, and Pier resources, and I want to know which questions I
should answer first.
Nice idea, and very helpful of you.
I've been thinking about this since Lukas mentioned his faq last week
and here are some questions that I've come up with based on my
experiences while getting to grips with Pier:
- a brief explanation of the key concepts of Pier and their
relationships (kernel, structures, contexts, commands, main widgets,
users, groups etc) -- this is the same point Sean makes.
- how do I add a page - manually, and programmatically?
- how do I change the security of a page - manually and programmatically?
- how do I add/delete/change a user - manually and programmatically?
- how do I change a page's security - manually and programmatically?
- how do I write a link to another page in the same kernel - manually
and programmatically?
- how do I write a link that when clicked will execute a command
against another page - manually and programmatically?
- how do I change the admin password when I've forgotten it? (I know
that you have the answer for that one :-)
I've got a small application that does a lot of these things
programmatically (creates a new Pier kernel, adds pages to it, allows
users to register, creates pages for them, and amends the security on
those pages), I went through a very steep learning curve while getting
to that point, so it may be very useful for others getting started
with Pier. There's a couple of bits of code I'd want to remove, but
I'm happy to publish the rest of it.
Cheers,
Michael
10:48 p.m.
Ok, My tutorial is going to be about making a basic pier app, for yourself,
like my page. I am going to try to stay away from more complicated things.
Just a basic getting started, I hope.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Michael Davies <mykdavies(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:42 PM, David Zmick
<dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
What are the most common questions about Pier. I
am trying to set up a
site
to with tutorials, and Pier resources, and I want
to know which questions
I
should answer first.
Nice idea, and very helpful of you.
I've been thinking about this since Lukas mentioned his faq last week
and here are some questions that I've come up with based on my
experiences while getting to grips with Pier:
- a brief explanation of the key concepts of Pier and their
relationships (kernel, structures, contexts, commands, main widgets,
users, groups etc) -- this is the same point Sean makes.
- how do I add a page - manually, and programmatically?
- how do I change the security of a page - manually and programmatically?
- how do I add/delete/change a user - manually and programmatically?
- how do I change a page's security - manually and programmatically?
- how do I write a link to another page in the same kernel - manually
and programmatically?
- how do I write a link that when clicked will execute a command
against another page - manually and programmatically?
- how do I change the admin password when I've forgotten it? (I know
that you have the answer for that one :-)
I've got a small application that does a lot of these things
programmatically (creates a new Pier kernel, adds pages to it, allows
users to register, creates pages for them, and amends the security on
those pages), I went through a very steep learning curve while getting
to that point, so it may be very useful for others getting started
with Pier. There's a couple of bits of code I'd want to remove, but
I'm happy to publish the rest of it.
Cheers,
Michael
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10:50 p.m.
I can't add pages yet programmatically, or do anything programmatically for
that matter, so that wont be in there. I would like to have something about
Magma as well, but I can't figure that out either.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:48 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, My tutorial is going to be about making a basic
pier app, for yourself,
like my page. I am going to try to stay away from more complicated things.
Just a basic getting started, I hope.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Michael Davies <mykdavies(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:42 PM, David Zmick
<dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
David Zmick
/dz0004455\
http://dz0004455.googlepages.com
http://dz0004455.blogspot.com
What are the most common questions about Pier. I
am trying to set up a
site
to with tutorials, and Pier resources, and I want
to know which
questions I
should answer first.
Nice idea, and very helpful of you.
I've been thinking about this since Lukas mentioned his faq last week
and here are some questions that I've come up with based on my
experiences while getting to grips with Pier:
- a brief explanation of the key concepts of Pier and their
relationships (kernel, structures, contexts, commands, main widgets,
users, groups etc) -- this is the same point Sean makes.
- how do I add a page - manually, and programmatically?
- how do I change the security of a page - manually and programmatically?
- how do I add/delete/change a user - manually and programmatically?
- how do I change a page's security - manually and programmatically?
- how do I write a link to another page in the same kernel - manually
and programmatically?
- how do I write a link that when clicked will execute a command
against another page - manually and programmatically?
- how do I change the admin password when I've forgotten it? (I know
that you have the answer for that one :-)
I've got a small application that does a lot of these things
programmatically (creates a new Pier kernel, adds pages to it, allows
users to register, creates pages for them, and amends the security on
those pages), I went through a very steep learning curve while getting
to that point, so it may be very useful for others getting started
with Pier. There's a couple of bits of code I'd want to remove, but
I'm happy to publish the rest of it.
Cheers,
Michael
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9:05 a.m.
This is an excellent idea!
Please continue!
Pier needs that.
Stef
On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:35 PM, Michael Davies wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:42 PM, David Zmick
<dz0004455(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
What are the most common questions about Pier. I
am trying to set
up a site
to with tutorials, and Pier resources, and I want to know which
questions I
should answer first.
Nice idea, and very helpful of you.
I've been thinking about this since Lukas mentioned his faq last week
and here are some questions that I've come up with based on my
experiences while getting to grips with Pier:
- a brief explanation of the key concepts of Pier and their
relationships (kernel, structures, contexts, commands, main widgets,
users, groups etc) -- this is the same point Sean makes.
- how do I add a page - manually, and programmatically?
- how do I change the security of a page - manually and
programmatically?
- how do I add/delete/change a user - manually and programmatically?
- how do I change a page's security - manually and programmatically?
- how do I write a link to another page in the same kernel - manually
and programmatically?
- how do I write a link that when clicked will execute a command
against another page - manually and programmatically?
- how do I change the admin password when I've forgotten it? (I know
that you have the answer for that one :-)
I've got a small application that does a lot of these things
programmatically (creates a new Pier kernel, adds pages to it, allows
users to register, creates pages for them, and amends the security on
those pages), I went through a very steep learning curve while getting
to that point, so it may be very useful for others getting started
with Pier. There's a couple of bits of code I'd want to remove, but
I'm happy to publish the rest of it.
Cheers,
Michael
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