9 Jun
2006
9 Jun
'06
1:15 p.m.
Hello all,
I have had a tweak of the way that the environment works, and I am
pretty pleased with the result and I hope that Lukas will consider
making use of this code.
If you would like to have a look then check out
http://create.seasidehosting.st
The environment as was has been moved to /environment/layout and children.
It is itself an editable page - just the place for some power user
documentation
It now has sub pages for stylesheet and javascript scripts
PRLibrary is still used if loaded, but it is redundant in this version.
If you remove the environment page a new clean one is instanciated in
its place.
Ideas for the near future:
It should be trivial to add a selector picker to pick a
layout/stylesheet from a selection.
These selectors are currently hardwired in PRStructure (see senders of
#pierconfig)
Inheritance is currently unchanged, all of the environment page and
contents is inherited or nothing. It shouldn't be too difficult to
inherit on a per environment/element basis. I think a generic "lookup in
parents" function would be useful for this.
enjoy
best regards
Keith
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9 Jun
9 Jun
1:28 p.m.
New subject: [Smallwiki] Upgrade to the environment
Not having much luck with seasidehosting,
so if you would like to sneak a look try
http://art.hobby-site.com/seaside/art
I'll attach a changeset too
best regards
Keith
'From Squeak3.8 of ''5 May 2005'' [latest update: #6665] on 9 June
2006 at 12:16:10 pm'!
!PRPierFrame methodsFor: 'accessing-dynamic' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006 12:11'!
layout
self flag: #todo.
^ self environment childrenDecoration at: self layoutSelector ifAbsent: [ nil ]! !
!PRPierFrame methodsFor: 'accessing-dynamic' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006 07:48'!
layoutSelector
self flag: #pierconfig.
^ 'layout'
! !
!PRPierFrame methodsFor: 'accessing-dynamic' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006 09:43'!
scriptPage
| stylePage |
self flag: #todo. "inheritance?"
stylePage := self environment childrenDecoration at: self scriptPageSelector ifAbsent: [
^'' ].
^ stylePage contents ! !
!PRPierFrame methodsFor: 'accessing-dynamic' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006 09:42'!
scriptPageSelector
self flag: #pierconfig.
^ 'javascript'! !
!PRPierFrame methodsFor: 'accessing-dynamic' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006 10:04'!
stylePage
| stylePage |
self flag: #todo. "inheritance?"
stylePage := self environment childrenDecoration at: self stylePageSelector ifAbsent: [
'' ].
^ stylePage contents ! !
!PRPierFrame methodsFor: 'accessing-dynamic' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006 09:35'!
stylePageSelector
self flag: #pierconfig.
^ 'stylesheet'! !
!PRPierFrame methodsFor: 'private' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006 10:17'!
updateRoot: aHtmlRoot
super updateRoot: aHtmlRoot.
self scriptPage ifNotNilDo: [:script | aHtmlRoot addScript: script].
self stylePage ifNotNilDo: [:style | aHtmlRoot addStyle: style].
aHtmlRoot docType: '<?xml version="1.0"
encoding="UTF-8"?><!!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0
Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">'.
aHtmlRoot htmlAttributes at: 'xmlns' put:
'http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'.
aHtmlRoot addHeadElement: ((WAHtmlElement named: 'meta')
attributeAt: 'name' put: 'generator';
attributeAt: 'content' put: PRDistribution versionString;
yourself)! !
!PRPierFrame methodsFor: 'rendering' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006 08:00'!
renderContentOn: html
html div
class: 'frame';
with: [
self context renderer
start: self layout
in: self on: html ]! !
!PRPierLibrary methodsFor: 'accessing' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006 11:38'!
style
self flag: #pierconfig.
"this will work but it is not needed"
^ '@import
"http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/pier/style/84/style.css";'! !
!PRStructure methodsFor: '*pier-seaside-configuration' stamp: 'kph 6/9/2006
11:50'!
environmentStructure
| environment layout stylesheet |
self flag: #pierconfig.
"structure then contents"
environment := (PRPage named: 'environment')
addDecoration: PRHider new;
addChild:
(layout := (PRPage named: 'layout')
addChild: ((PRComponent named: 'header')
componentClass: PRHeaderWidget;
yourself);
addChild: ((PRComponent named: 'views')
componentClass: PRViewsWidget;
yourself);
addChild: ((PRComponent named: 'commands')
componentClass: PRCommandsWidget;
yourself);
addChild: ((PRComponent named: 'tree')
componentClass: PRTreeWidget;
yourself);
addChild: ((PRComponent named: 'main')
componentClass: PRContentsWidget;
yourself);
yourself);
addChild:
(stylesheet := (PRPage named: 'stylesheet')
yourself);
yourself.
environment contents: '-*layout*
-*layout/header*
-*layout/views*
-*layout/commands*
-*layout/tree*
-*layout/main*
-*stylesheet*
-*javascript*'.
layout contents: '+header+
<table class="body"><tr><td
class="boxes">+views+<br />+commands+<br
/>+tree+</td><td class="spacer"></td><td
class="main">+main+</td></tr></table>'.
stylesheet contents: ' @import
"http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/pier/style/84/style.css";'.
^environment! !
PRPierFrame removeSelector: #style!
4:59 p.m.
New subject: [Smallwiki] Upgrade to the environment
!PRStructure methodsFor:
'*pier-seaside-configuration' stamp: 'kph
6/9/2006 11:50'!
environmentStructure
| environment layout stylesheet |
self flag: #pierconfig.
"structure then contents"
environment := (PRPage named: 'environment')
addDecoration: PRHider new;
addChild:
(layout := (PRPage named: 'layout')
addChild: ((PRComponent named: 'header')
[...]
If you log-in (latest version, I suggest to always use this one) or
if you directly type the path to the environment (older versions) you
are able to simply edit those things from within your Web browser.
Lukas
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10 Jun
10 Jun
3:22 a.m.
New subject: [Smallwiki] Upgrade to the environment
environmentStructure
| environment layout stylesheet |
self flag: #pierconfig.
"structure then contents"
environment := (PRPage named: 'environment')
addDecoration: PRHider new;
addChild:
(layout := (PRPage named: 'layout')
addChild: ((PRComponent named: 'header')
[...]
If you log-in (latest version, I suggest to always use this one) or
if you directly type the path to the environment
(older versions) you
are able to simply edit those things from within your Web browser.
Lukas
I do understand that you are able to do this. Thats what I did in order
to reverse engineer the code to put into environmentStructure. Although
pier is very tightly and cleanly architected, I think that am at a
different stage in the process. I feel that my contribution is part of
the process of making things more usable for the uninitiated. I have the
benefit of not knowing anything about pier and having to learn it all
from scratch.
So I am taking a look at the raw features that pier has and putting them
into a context for the new users, specifically power users, who need
meta-tools. The old environment is simply a tool for editing one thing,
the layout. My implementation of environment has/will become a
development space for new layouts, styles and everything else which I
dont think really had a place before. You are correct you can directly
edit a sub-component by entering the direct url. But I ask the question,
how do you learn how to do this if no one has told you, it has to be
really obvious. I also think that it is best to get things to a point
where the out of the box experience as easy to learn as possible, but we
dont want to clutter up the main user wiki content with this stuff,
which is what wiki's always used to do.
You may not see the need to mark the hard wired things. But for me they
are a useful hook for learning things, particularly if you want to tweak
things, which is where learning things often starts for me.
On reflection it looks like the direction this is leading to is to
refactor all of the environment stuff, and some of the pierconfig stuff
out of PRStructure into a separate extension module. For want of a
better name "PREnvironment" and sons.
This would allow Environments (i.e. the out of the box style and
configuration) to be selected in the seaside configuration panel, and
offer a creative outlet for users to produce a range of pre-configured
environments. This becomes the natural starting point for new 'power'
users to begin creating bespoke environments, while allowing the core of
pier to remain lean and fit.
best regards
Keith
10:31 a.m.
New subject: [Smallwiki] Upgrade to the environment
environmentStructure | environment layout stylesheet |
self flag:
#pierconfig. "structure then contents" environment := (PRPage
named: 'environment') addDecoration: PRHider new; addChild:
(layout := (PRPage named: 'layout') addChild: ((PRComponent
named: 'header') [...]
If you log-in (latest version, I suggest to always use this one) or if you
directly type the path to the environment (older versions)
you are able to simply edit those things from within your Web
browser. Lukas
I do understand that you are able to do this. Thats what I did in
order to reverse engineer the code to put into
environmentStructure. Although pier is very tightly and cleanly
architected, I think that am at a different stage in the process. I
feel that my contribution is part of the process of making things
more usable for the uninitiated. I have the benefit of not knowing
anything about pier and having to learn it all from scratch. So I am taking a look at the raw features that pier
has and putting
them into a context for the new users, specifically power users,
who need meta-tools. The old environment is simply a tool for
editing one thing, the layout. My implementation of environment has/
will become a development space for new layouts, styles and
everything else which I dont think really had a place before. You
are correct you can directly edit a sub-component by entering the
direct url. But I ask the question, how do you learn how to do this
if no one has told you, it has to be really obvious. I also think
that it is best to get things to a point where the out of the box
experience as easy to learn as possible, but we dont want to
clutter up the main user wiki content with this stuff, which is
what wiki's always used to do.
Yes, I completely agree. That's why I tried to make hidden structures
visible for super-users, I don't know why it didn't work in your
case. Maybe the default Pier setup should include a better
introduction and a how-to for the most common functionalities. Right
now a non-programmer is simply lost.
You may not see the need to mark the hard wired
things. But for me
they are a useful hook for learning things, particularly if you
want to tweak things, which is where learning things often starts
for me.
Sure, the problem is I don't like flags in the code ;-)
Some of things you labelled as hard wired are not hard wired, these
are just default values that can be changed trough the web-interface.
Something totally unrelated, just to write it down: it would be cool
to have sort of a tagging system in Smalltalk, so that one could
associate tags with classes, methods, instance variables, etc. Then
we could get rid of the categories and all the flags and one could
simply open a browser on all entities tagged as "hard wired", or on
all classes tagged as "document" and "visitor" displaying the
PRDocumentVisitor class ...
On reflection it looks like the direction this is
leading to is to
refactor all of the environment stuff, and some of the pierconfig
stuff out of PRStructure into a separate extension module. For want
of a better name "PREnvironment" and sons.
This would allow Environments (i.e. the out of the box style and
configuration) to be selected in the seaside configuration panel,
and offer a creative outlet for users to produce a range of pre-
configured environments. This becomes the natural starting point
for new 'power' users to begin creating bespoke environments, while
allowing the core of pier to remain lean and fit.
For #icon and #label this would be a good idea, else I don't really
see the point. The environment is instantiated once when you set up
the server, after that it doesn't need that code anymore. This is
just a template to get users started from.
To have the choice between different ready-made templates I created a
small command with less than 30 lines of code. See Pier-Environment-
lr.1 in the Pier repository. It has 3 slightly different templates
defined on the class-side, that can be applied from the web-interface
anywhere inside Pier. Does this help? Do you think that should go
into the core?
Cheers,
Lukas
--
Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
6:36 p.m.
New subject: [Smallwiki] Upgrade to the environment
Lukas,
Ooh, it does work after all. Not knowing this I had taken the law into
my own hands and removed the hider manually which explains why it didnt
work for me!
Keith
I don't know if this functionality also works with
ACL Security,
probably not. In the Unix Security you need to log-in as a super-user
and then the environment (that is hidden trough a hider-decoration)
magically appears. The code doing this is the following:
PRContext>>setUser: aUser
self propertyAt: #user put: aUser.
self enumerator hidden: (aUser notNil
and: [ aUser isSuperuser ])
The enumerator in the context is a default visitor that knows how to
traverse Pier. If you set #hidden: to true it also visits hidden
structures, else they are simply ignored. Menus are rendered using
this default enumerator.
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12 Jun
12 Jun
1:55 a.m.
New subject: [Smallwiki] Upgrade to the environment
Sure, the problem is I don't like flags in the
code ;-)
I see!
Some of things you labelled as hard wired are not hard
wired, these
are just default values that can be changed trough the web-interface.
Something totally unrelated, just to write it down: it would be cool
to have sort of a tagging system in Smalltalk, so that one could
associate tags with classes, methods, instance variables, etc. Then
we could get rid of the categories and all the flags and one could
simply open a browser on all entities tagged as "hard wired", or on
all classes tagged as "document" and "visitor" displaying the
PRDocumentVisitor class ...
I am not sure if I remember rightly, but wasn't this what the developer
of starbrowser had in mind too?
On reflection
it looks like the direction this is leading to is to
refactor all of the environment stuff, and some of the pierconfig
stuff out of PRStructure into a separate extension module. For want
of a better name "PREnvironment" and sons.
This would allow Environments (i.e. the out of the box style and
configuration) to be selected in the seaside configuration panel,
and offer a creative outlet for users to produce a range of pre-
configured environments. This becomes the natural starting point
for new 'power' users to begin creating bespoke environments, while
allowing the core of pier to remain lean and fit.
For #icon and #label this would be a good idea, else I don't really
see the point. The environment is instantiated once when you set up
To have the choice between different ready-made
templates I created a
small command with less than 30 lines of code. See Pier-Environment-
lr.1 in the Pier repository. It has 3 slightly different templates
defined on the class-side, that can be applied from the web-interface
anywhere inside Pier. Does this help? Do you think that should go
into the core?
Its certainly nice to have around as an example, and I think that having
a Pier-Environment space on the server for such things is a great idea.
do you open your source server for contibutions?
Keith
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6:54 a.m.
New subject: [Smallwiki] Upgrade to the environment
Its certainly nice to have around as an example, and I
think that
having
a Pier-Environment space on the server for such things is a great
idea.
do you open your source server for contibutions?
Yes sure, the projects Pier and Magritte are now repositories
writeable by everybody. Everybody feel free to commit changes,
enhancements, fixes, etc.
Cheers,
Lukas
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9 Jun
9 Jun
1:28 p.m.
I get a gateway problem when I try to access this page:
Bad Gateway
The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
It's not the case with other seasidehosting websites.
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