22 Sep
2004
22 Sep
'04
7:53 p.m.
Hi all,
I've just joined the list, and I'm wondering whether it is safe to start
using SmallWiki 2 already.
A precision, this is not for intensive industrial use, but still, for
collaborative research work (therefore a bit of reliability is required
-- at least not losing data).
If you advise to use SmallWiki 1:
- is there going to be a (easy) way to migrate for v1 to v2?
- when do you think v2 will be usable?
Thanks in advance,
-- Eric
22 Sep
22 Sep
8:15 p.m.
Hi eric
so you PhD is shipped :)
Hi all,
I've just joined the list, and I'm wondering whether it is safe to
start using SmallWiki 2 already.
A precision, this is not for intensive industrial use, but still, for
collaborative research work (therefore a bit of reliability is
required -- at least not losing data).
If you advise to use SmallWiki 1:
Use SWI
- is there going to be a (easy) way to migrate for v1
to v2?
It will be easy to migrate from SW1 to SW2
- when do you think v2 will be usable?
I need a really good version for the lecture we will do in february.
Before it depends on lukas.
Stef
Thanks in advance,
-- Eric
9:46 p.m.
stéphane ducasse wrote:
Hi eric
so you PhD is shipped :)
Yes!
Still have some things to do, but yesterday I (at last!) installed
Cincom STK. A first step, one could say ;)
Use SWI
Ok.
It will be easy to migrate from SW1 to SW2
Ok.
I need a really good version for the lecture we will
do in february.
Before it depends on lukas.
Ok, that's fine then, I'll go for SWI.
More questions to come, I'm sure...
Cheers,
-- Eric
10:08 p.m.
On 22 sept. 04, at 21:46, Eric Tanter wrote:
No problem this is not as we would like it to be but .....too much
papers to write :)
Stef
stéphane ducasse wrote:
:) indeed take care after this will be difficult.
Marcus denker is implementing a byte-to-byte translator and after that
we will have dynamic Reflex for squeak :)
Hi eric
so you PhD is shipped :)
Yes!
Still have some things to do, but yesterday I (at last!) installed
Cincom STK. A first step, one could say ;) Use SWI
Ok.
It will be easy to migrate from SW1 to SW2
Ok.
I need a really good version for the lecture we
will do in february.
Before it depends on lukas.
Ok, that's fine then, I'll go for SWI.
More questions to come, I'm sure...
Cheers,
-- Eric
23 Sep
23 Sep
12:25 a.m.
:) indeed take care after this will be difficult.
I know! (that's the idea actually)
Marcus denker is implementing a byte-to-byte
translator and after that
we will have dynamic Reflex for squeak :)
keep me informed (but ok, there is a reflex mailing list, and this is a
smallwiki one!)
-- Eric
4:51 p.m.
I just have to ask what is dynamic Reflex ?
thanks
-Charles
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:08:28 +0200, stéphane ducasse
<ducasse(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
On 22 sept. 04, at 21:46, Eric Tanter wrote:
No problem this is not as we would like it to be but .....too much
papers to write :)
Stef
--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
stéphane ducasse wrote:
:) indeed take care after this will be difficult.
Marcus denker is implementing a byte-to-byte translator and after that
we will have dynamic Reflex for squeak :)
Hi eric
so you PhD is shipped :)
Yes!
Still have some things to do, but yesterday I (at last!) installed
Cincom STK. A first step, one could say ;) Use SWI
Ok.
It will be easy to migrate from SW1 to SW2
Ok.
I need a really good version for the lecture we
will do in february.
Before it depends on lukas.
Ok, that's fine then, I'll go for SWI.
More questions to come, I'm sure...
Cheers,
-- Eric
4:19 p.m.
reflex is a cool frameowkr developed by eric in java to do cool
reflective activities.
However reflex is based on code loader so can only occur at load time.
while we are planning to have fun with a dynamic one
But I'm sure that if an excellent guy such as eric dive into squeak
(and is not killed by the shitty smell of some of the compiler parts)
we can really get sexy tool in the future :)
Stef
On 23 sept. 04, at 16:51, Charles A. Monteiro wrote:
I just have to ask what is dynamic Reflex ?
thanks
-Charles
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:08:28 +0200, stéphane ducasse
<ducasse(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
On 22 sept. 04, at 21:46, Eric Tanter wrote:
No problem this is not as we would like it to be but .....too much
papers to write :)
Stef
--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
stéphane ducasse wrote:
:) indeed take care after this will be difficult.
Marcus denker is implementing a byte-to-byte translator and after
that we will have dynamic Reflex for squeak :)
Hi eric
so you PhD is shipped :)
Yes!
Still have some things to do, but yesterday I (at last!) installed
Cincom STK. A first step, one could say ;) Use SWI
Ok.
It will be easy to migrate from SW1 to SW2
Ok.
I need a really good version for the lecture we
will do in
february. Before it depends on lukas.
Ok, that's fine then, I'll go for SWI.
More questions to come, I'm sure...
Cheers,
-- Eric
4:21 p.m.
Then I just have to answer ;)
Reflex is an efficient and flexible reflective system for Java that I
developed during my PhD thesis (which is about to end). It is evolving
right now to what we call an "AOP kernel", supporting multiple
approaches to AOP to coexist and collaborate.
One of the limitations of the actual implementation of Reflex is that it
is in standard Java (via load-time bytecode transformation), and
therefore does not support really dynamic stuff (a class definition in
Java cannot be changed after runtime, the instantiation link of an
object neither, etc.). These restrictions in the Java world do not exist
in Smalltalk, where moreover, the type system is pretty "cool", to say
the least. Therefore an interesting perspective (which Stef is
mentioning) is to work on a version of Reflex for Smalltalk, in which
the complete dynamicity of the environment would be used.
If you want to know more, either mail me directly or check my web site
for papers (1), or the Reflex website (2) for mailing list information.
Note that the current development version of Reflex (as an AOP kernel)
is not yet distributed, but we are ok to give access to the SVN
repository on a case-by-case basis.
-- Eric
(1) http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~etanter
(2) http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~etanter/Reflex
Charles A. Monteiro wrote:
I just have to ask what is dynamic Reflex ?
thanks
-Charles
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:08:28 +0200, stéphane ducasse
<ducasse(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
--
http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~etanter
On 22 sept. 04, at 21:46, Eric Tanter wrote:
No problem this is not as we would like it to be but .....too much
papers to write :)
Stef
stéphane ducasse wrote:
:) indeed take care after this will be difficult.
Marcus denker is implementing a byte-to-byte translator and after
that we will have dynamic Reflex for squeak :)
Hi eric
so you PhD is shipped :)
Yes!
Still have some things to do, but yesterday I (at last!) installed
Cincom STK. A first step, one could say ;) Use SWI
Ok.
It will be easy to migrate from SW1 to SW2
Ok.
I need a really good version for the lecture we
will do in
february. Before it depends on lukas.
Ok, that's fine then, I'll go for SWI.
More questions to come, I'm sure...
Cheers,
-- Eric
8:53 p.m.
me gustaria estudiar Reflex pero en Smalltalk :)
lived in Venezuela for a while , dad is Brazilian etc, I have checked some
of the AOP in ST, I guess I will register with the list.
-Charles
On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 10:21:44 -0400, Eric Tanter <etanter(a)dcc.uchile.cl>
wrote:
Then I just have to answer ;)
Reflex is an efficient and flexible reflective system for Java that I
developed during my PhD thesis (which is about to end). It is evolving
right now to what we call an "AOP kernel", supporting multiple
approaches to AOP to coexist and collaborate.
One of the limitations of the actual implementation of Reflex is that it
is in standard Java (via load-time bytecode transformation), and
therefore does not support really dynamic stuff (a class definition in
Java cannot be changed after runtime, the instantiation link of an
object neither, etc.). These restrictions in the Java world do not exist
in Smalltalk, where moreover, the type system is pretty "cool", to say
the least. Therefore an interesting perspective (which Stef is
mentioning) is to work on a version of Reflex for Smalltalk, in which
the complete dynamicity of the environment would be used.
If you want to know more, either mail me directly or check my web site
for papers (1), or the Reflex website (2) for mailing list information.
Note that the current development version of Reflex (as an AOP kernel)
is not yet distributed, but we are ok to give access to the SVN
repository on a case-by-case basis.
-- Eric
(1) http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~etanter
(2) http://www.dcc.uchile.cl/~etanter/Reflex
Charles A. Monteiro wrote:
--
Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
I just have to ask what is dynamic Reflex ?
thanks
-Charles
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:08:28 +0200, stéphane ducasse
<ducasse(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
On 22 sept. 04, at 21:46, Eric Tanter wrote:
stéphane ducasse wrote:
> Hi eric
> so you PhD is shipped :)
Yes!
Still have some things to do, but yesterday I (at last!) installed
Cincom STK. A first step, one could say ;)
:) indeed take care after this will be difficult.
Marcus denker is implementing a byte-to-byte translator and after
that we will have dynamic Reflex for squeak :)
> Use SWI
Ok.
> It will be easy to migrate from SW1 to SW2
Ok.
> I need a really good version for the lecture we will do in
> february. Before it depends on lukas.
Ok, that's fine then, I'll go for SWI.
More questions to come, I'm sure...
No problem this is not as we would like it to be but .....too much
papers to write :)
Stef
Cheers,
-- Eric
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