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David Zmick

21 Aug 2008 21 Aug '08

11:35 p.m.

I cant get magma figured out. I REALLY need it, my image is reach 50 mb. I am running squeak-web 3.10 -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

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Keith Hodges

22 Aug 22 Aug

3:03 a.m.

David Zmick wrote:

I cant get magma figured out. I REALLY need it, my image is reach 50 mb. I am running squeak-web 3.10 -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

Before you get too worried... empty the Monticello caches. If you have Kernel-Extensions loaded there are numerous cleanUp methods for getting your image down a bit. SmalltalkImage current cleanUpAll. (this will turn off WAKom) regards Keith

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David Zmick

3:45 a.m.

I have it working on my fresh image, except for one thing, if i click any of the buttons in the PRPierControlPanel, i get this error: PRPierControlPanel On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote;wrote:

David Zmick wrote:

I cant get magma figured out. I REALLY need it, my image is reach 50 mb. I am running squeak-web 3.10 -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

Before you get too worried... empty the Monticello caches. If you have Kernel-Extensions loaded there are numerous cleanUp methods for getting your image down a bit. SmalltalkImage current cleanUpAll. (this will turn off WAKom) regards Keith _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

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David Zmick

3:46 a.m.

sorry, that isn't an error, it is this: Error: WAMagmaConfiguration not selected in application configuration On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:45 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I have it working on my fresh image, except for one thing, if i click any of the buttons in the PRPierControlPanel, i get this error: PRPierControlPanel On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote;wrote:

David Zmick wrote:

I cant get magma figured out. I REALLY need it, my image is reach 50 mb. I am running squeak-web 3.10 -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

Before you get too worried... empty the Monticello caches. If you have Kernel-Extensions loaded there are numerous cleanUp methods for getting your image down a bit. SmalltalkImage current cleanUpAll. (this will turn off WAKom) regards Keith _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

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David Zmick

4:07 a.m.

so, how do i get my pier site out of one image and into another, now that i have magma working, i think, on both of them? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:

sorry, that isn't an error, it is this: Error: WAMagmaConfiguration not selected in application configuration On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:45 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I have it working on my fresh image, except for one thing, if i click any of the buttons in the PRPierControlPanel, i get this error: PRPierControlPanel On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote;wrote:

David Zmick wrote:

I cant get magma figured out. I REALLY need it, my image is reach 50 mb. I am running squeak-web 3.10 -- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

Before you get too worried... empty the Monticello caches. If you have Kernel-Extensions loaded there are numerous cleanUp methods for getting your image down a bit. SmalltalkImage current cleanUpAll. (this will turn off WAKom) regards Keith _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

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Keith Hodges

5:09 a.m.

David Zmick wrote:

so, how do i get my pier site out of one image and into another, now that i have magma working, i think, on both of them? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com <mailto:dz0004455@gmail.com>> wrote: sorry, that isn't an error, it is this: Error: WAMagmaConfiguration not selected in application configuration

This error indicates that you have not added WAMagmaConfiguration to your pier application in /seaside/config This error should not (I think) occur when clicking "any buttons", but it should occur if you attempt to select PRMagmaPersistency. When it is present you should get a "Migrate" button, this will migrate the kernel, from memory into the database, then a "confirm" dialog will offer you the chance to commit to this. The pier data is now "out of your image". Then if you take your new image, and configure that to connect to the same magma database, you should be able to configure a kernel (with the same name) with PRMagmaPersistency, it will see the existing kernel in the database, and adopt it. If you then switch the persistency back to PRNullPersistency the database should be imported back into memory in its entirety. btw history is not yet supported in magma, however it might be if PRMagmaPersistency was a subclass of PRHistoryPersistency Keith

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David Zmick

6:16 a.m.

this isnt working, I think i have it, then i breaks, and it breaks differently each time... hmm. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote;wrote:

David Zmick wrote:

so, how do i get my pier site out of one image and into another, now that i have magma working, i think, on both of them? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com <mailto:dz0004455@gmail.com>> wrote: sorry, that isn't an error, it is this: Error: WAMagmaConfiguration not selected in application configuration

This error indicates that you have not added WAMagmaConfiguration to your pier application in /seaside/config This error should not (I think) occur when clicking "any buttons", but it should occur if you attempt to select PRMagmaPersistency. When it is present you should get a "Migrate" button, this will migrate the kernel, from memory into the database, then a "confirm" dialog will offer you the chance to commit to this. The pier data is now "out of your image". Then if you take your new image, and configure that to connect to the same magma database, you should be able to configure a kernel (with the same name) with PRMagmaPersistency, it will see the existing kernel in the database, and adopt it. If you then switch the persistency back to PRNullPersistency the database should be imported back into memory in its entirety. btw history is not yet supported in magma, however it might be if PRMagmaPersistency was a subclass of PRHistoryPersistency Keith _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

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David Zmick

7:49 a.m.

i think i got it On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:16 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:

this isnt working, I think i have it, then i breaks, and it breaks differently each time... hmm. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote;wrote:

David Zmick wrote:

so, how do i get my pier site out of one image and into another, now that i have magma working, i think, on both of them? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com <mailto:dz0004455@gmail.com>> wrote: sorry, that isn't an error, it is this: Error: WAMagmaConfiguration not selected in application configuration

This error indicates that you have not added WAMagmaConfiguration to your pier application in /seaside/config This error should not (I think) occur when clicking "any buttons", but it should occur if you attempt to select PRMagmaPersistency. When it is present you should get a "Migrate" button, this will migrate the kernel, from memory into the database, then a "confirm" dialog will offer you the chance to commit to this. The pier data is now "out of your image". Then if you take your new image, and configure that to connect to the same magma database, you should be able to configure a kernel (with the same name) with PRMagmaPersistency, it will see the existing kernel in the database, and adopt it. If you then switch the persistency back to PRNullPersistency the database should be imported back into memory in its entirety. btw history is not yet supported in magma, however it might be if PRMagmaPersistency was a subclass of PRHistoryPersistency Keith _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

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David Zmick

8:09 a.m.

I am still getting the error, even though Pier is clearlly using Magma. hmm. more on that later, im going to sleep. On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:49 AM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:

i think i got it On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 11:16 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com> wrote:

this isnt working, I think i have it, then i breaks, and it breaks differently each time... hmm. On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote;wrote:

David Zmick wrote:

so, how do i get my pier site out of one image and into another, now that i have magma working, i think, on both of them? On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 8:46 PM, David Zmick <dz0004455(a)gmail.com <mailto:dz0004455@gmail.com>> wrote: sorry, that isn't an error, it is this: Error: WAMagmaConfiguration not selected in application configuration

This error indicates that you have not added WAMagmaConfiguration to your pier application in /seaside/config This error should not (I think) occur when clicking "any buttons", but it should occur if you attempt to select PRMagmaPersistency. When it is present you should get a "Migrate" button, this will migrate the kernel, from memory into the database, then a "confirm" dialog will offer you the chance to commit to this. The pier data is now "out of your image". Then if you take your new image, and configure that to connect to the same magma database, you should be able to configure a kernel (with the same name) with PRMagmaPersistency, it will see the existing kernel in the database, and adopt it. If you then switch the persistency back to PRNullPersistency the database should be imported back into memory in its entirety. btw history is not yet supported in magma, however it might be if PRMagmaPersistency was a subclass of PRHistoryPersistency Keith _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

-- David Zmick /dz0004455\ http://dz0004455.googlepages.com http://dz0004455.blogspot.com

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