31 Aug
2008
31 Aug
'08
4:35 p.m.
Greetings,
I am just starting to poke around Pier and I am trying to figure out how
to hide the "Views" menu from a non-admin user.
I can change the permissions for "Other" so that there are no menu
choices under the "Views" menu but the box with the word "Views" still
appears. I would like this to not be shown. How can this be done?
Just to clarify, what I mean by the "Views" menu is the menu on the left
hand side. There are three menus on the lhs: Views, Commands and
Navigation. I want the Views menu to not appear at all.
Thanks,
Frank
31 Aug
31 Aug
10:53 p.m.
Hi,
Go to the Commands widget and then access Settings. This will allow
you to put away the View from the list of available commands.
Cheers,
Doru
On Aug 31, 2008, at 4:35 PM, Squeaker wrote:
Greetings,
I am just starting to poke around Pier and I am trying to figure out
how
to hide the "Views" menu from a non-admin user.
I can change the permissions for "Other" so that there are no menu
choices under the "Views" menu but the box with the word "Views"
still
appears. I would like this to not be shown. How can this be done?
Just to clarify, what I mean by the "Views" menu is the menu on the
left
hand side. There are three menus on the lhs: Views, Commands and
Navigation. I want the Views menu to not appear at all.
Thanks,
Frank
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1 Sep
1 Sep
3:54 p.m.
Tudor Girba wrote:
Go to the Commands widget and then access Settings.
This will allow
you to put away the View from the list of available commands.
Thanks for the help.
I was able to do what you suggested but what I wanted to accomplish is
to have the entire Views box on the sidebar not appear.
Maybe I can pose a different question: How do I get the entire sidebar
to not appear? I see in a previous email that Lukas provided this hint:
If you have loaded Pier-Security you can set the view
permissions of the side-bar to the admin only. This
means you remove all the permissions from Group and
Others of the side-bar page. In this case it won't
be displayed.
But I not clear on how to access the page that sets the permissions for
the side-bar page.
Thanks again,
Frank
5:20 p.m.
I would like to send you my pdf, but I cant attach it. I will get it to you
somehow.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Squeaker <squeakman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Tudor Girba wrote:
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Go to the Commands widget and then access
Settings. This will allow
you to put away the View from the list of available commands.
Thanks for the help.
I was able to do what you suggested but what I wanted to accomplish is
to have the entire Views box on the sidebar not appear.
Maybe I can pose a different question: How do I get the entire sidebar
to not appear? I see in a previous email that Lukas provided this hint:
If you have loaded Pier-Security you can set the
view
permissions of the side-bar to the admin only. This
means you remove all the permissions from Group and
Others of the side-bar page. In this case it won't
be displayed.
But I not clear on how to access the page that sets the permissions for
the side-bar page.
Thanks again,
Frank
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6:31 p.m.
Hi again,
I do not know exactly what your settings are, but I guess you have
somewhere in your environment "Views" as an explicit string followed
by something like "+views+" that embeds the views widget.
The Unix security can only be applied on a structure (e.g., page,
widget, file). So, what you should do is to create a page that says
"Views +views+", embed this page into the environment, and then set
the rights for this page like you did for the widget only.
Does this help?
Cheers,
Doru
On Sep 1, 2008, at 3:54 PM, Squeaker wrote:
Tudor Girba wrote:
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"Beauty is where we see it."
Go to the Commands widget and then access
Settings. This will allow
you to put away the View from the list of available commands.
Thanks for the help.
I was able to do what you suggested but what I wanted to accomplish is
to have the entire Views box on the sidebar not appear.
Maybe I can pose a different question: How do I get the entire
sidebar
to not appear? I see in a previous email that Lukas provided this
hint:
If you have loaded Pier-Security you can set the
view
permissions of the side-bar to the admin only. This
means you remove all the permissions from Group and
Others of the side-bar page. In this case it won't
be displayed.
But I not clear on how to access the page that sets the permissions
for
the side-bar page.
Thanks again,
Frank
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8:52 p.m.
Tudor Girba wrote:
Hi again,
I do not know exactly what your settings are, but I guess you have
somewhere in your environment "Views" as an explicit string followed
by something like "+views+" that embeds the views widget.
The Unix security can only be applied on a structure (e.g., page,
widget, file). So, what you should do is to create a page that says
"Views +views+", embed this page into the environment, and then set
the rights for this page like you did for the widget only.
Does this help?
Cheers,
Doru
Thanks that has helped me a bit in putting the pieces together.
Is there documentation somewhere that explains the things that you can
add to your page, e.g., +Views+, +Sidebar+, +header+ etc?
Cheers,
Frank
8:57 p.m.
Is there documentation somewhere that explains the
things that you can
add to your page, e.g., +Views+, +Sidebar+, +header+ etc?
These are all pages, components, files, blogs, posts, ... that are
part of your Pier setup. +Views+ means to embed the structure named
"Views" that is a child of the current page. You can also use more
complicated absolute or relative paths to reach any other structure
within your kernel:
+/+ to embed the root page
+/information/license+ to embed the license
+..+ to embed the parent structure
etc.
Cheers,
Lukas
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2 Sep
2 Sep
5:41 p.m.
Lukas Renggli wrote:
Ok, the light is going on! Finally.
Of course I have more questions. My experimenting leads me to believe
that there is one Design for the entire kernel, is this true?
I am hoping that I can customize the design on a per page basis as
opposed to having one global design.
Another question: How does one go about creating a new kernel?
Many thanks,
Frank
Is there
documentation somewhere that explains the things that you can
add to your page, e.g., +Views+, +Sidebar+, +header+ etc?
These are all pages, components, files, blogs, posts, ... that are
part of your Pier setup. +Views+ means to embed the structure named
"Views" that is a child of the current page. You can also use more
complicated absolute or relative paths to reach any other structure
within your kernel:
+/+ to embed the root page
+/information/license+ to embed the license
+..+ to embed the parent structure
etc.
Cheers,
Lukas
5:50 p.m.
+/+ to
embed the root page
+/information/license+ to embed the license
+..+ to embed the parent structure
etc.
Cheers,
Lukas
Ok, the light is going on! Finally. Of course I have more questions. My experimenting
leads me to believe
that there is one Design for the entire kernel, is this true?
No. The page "/environment" defines the default design (it is sort of
a meta-page for Pier). In the settings of the root page you see that
the environment is set to "/environment".
I am hoping that I can customize the design on a per
page basis as
opposed to having one global design.
Now you can copy the default environment, modify it and go to a
different page. In the settings of this other page you select the
copied environment. Here you go, now you have two different designs.
Child structures will inherit the design of their parent, if the
structure does not define the design.
Another question: How does one go about creating a new
kernel?
Evaluating
PRPierFrame initialize
will guide you through the process of creating a new kernel and
register it as a Seaside entry point. You might want to have a look at
that code, to see how it exactly works (essentially it just creates an
instance of PRKernel, creates a new Seaside application and tells it
to use the new kernel instance).
Cheers,
Lukas
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2:17 a.m.
i really wish i wasnt so busy, i have pdf i would love to put somewhere, put
i just dont have time!
On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Keith Hodges <keith_hodges(a)yahoo.co.uk>wrote;wrote:
The Pier-PersistencyManager has a UI for adding
kernels
Keith
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