Re: Pier 'How to'

Do you need Magma? I've not tried installing the Magma-Pier integration, yet (quite frankly, Keith's instructions are a bit vague and needs a bit more detail for a newbie like me), but the experience of just installing Pier is fairly straightforward (unless something has changed since my last install). Just install Pier from SqueakMap, and it'll take care of all the dependencies. Even when installing via the Monticello repository according to the instructions worked painlessly. Try the instructions here for the installation without Magma: http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/smallwiki/pier/installationofpier/ If you're determined to get Magma running with Pier, you might want to try getting help on Magma's mailing list, since it seems that most of your problems come from Magma. Magma List: magma(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org Magma List Archive: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/magma I feel similarly in regards to SqueakMap. It seems to lack automatic dependency resolution, and puts all the dependency resolution in the hands of the package developer, of which many pass that burden on to the user. The most well-behaved SqueakMap package so far for me, is Pier. I can take a fresh 3.8 image and install Pier, and it'll install all the other packages that it depends on, plus setting things up so it can start running once the installation is done. I always keep a fresh image that I can restart on. Many times installing packages from SqueakMap and fiddling around Squeak can break my image or change file, and I don't know how to fix it, so I just start fresh again. -Bill ----- Original Message ---- From: Thierry Thelliez <thierry.thelliez.tech(a)gmail.com> To: "Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ..." <smallwiki(a)iam.unibe.ch> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 4:15:01 PM Subject: Re: Pier 'How to' Quite a lot of problems with the Squeak environment... Because of the previous issues, I decided to try updating Magma and other Packages. I must say that I am underwhelmed with the SqueakMap system. Few days ago I was using YumEx for Fedora. I found the dependency management more clear. Anyhow, I first tried to update Magma. localhost:9090/seaside/pier refused to work... I tried updating other packages. Still no luck. Then I tried opening a fresh 3.9 image and running the Pier installation script. Again many not very clear messages about loading older versions of some MA * packages. The choices are yes and no. That's not clear what the implications are. I picked yes for all of them. I then got an error message about a missing MATestCase class... My perception as a newbie is that there is quite some version management issues here. The whole process stopped because of a syntax error (probably due to a different class schema version). I am not sure what to do next... _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now.