11 Jan
2010
11 Jan
'10
1:15 a.m.
Julian
Perhaps this would help: I am not asking for different behavior in the render loop. I
firmly believe that we should only subclass for behavior.
I also think that a web framework is the sort of thing that should tell you what you are
expected to provide - but not to reimplement key pieces of the framework for an alternate
text content-type.
Nothing that alternative document content markup requires necessitates those changes: the
markup simply does not close the tag with the name of the element. Its name for
"hr" is "hrule" but its name for "br" is "br". It
is not XML. It is as declarative as HTML. So I handle that as a document class and some
tag classes and a canvas subclass and maybe a Brush subclass if needed. Some of my tag
subclasses just subclass an Html Tag class.
I think that the content type of the page that a web app opens is the content type of the
cargo of that http response.
Putting the class for a RenderPhaseContinuation subclass into configuration properties
seems a stretch ... at least the charset issue is surely going to have to come back to the
document from the app class (if Seaside is to be used in India, for example: app is in
English or Hindi or Telegu or whatever and documents are in whatever char-encoding they
are in.
Even more so in those countries with a mix of Han and non-Chinese or Arabic and roman.
In the spirit of /htdocs but with UNICODE URI's
Robert
hypertext-doc guy
--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Julian Fitzell <jfitzell(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Julian Fitzell <jfitzell(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 3.0 merge status (observations and a code variant)
To: "Seaside - general discussion" <seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Cc: "Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ..." <smallwiki(a)iam.unibe.ch>
Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 5:03 PM
Hi Robert,
This would all be more appropriate on the Seaside list...
(I'm posting
there and CC'ing to Pier's list... could you follow up on
the Seaside
list if needed? thanks)
And we've been through this previously, if I recall. The
code you
mention below could probably be reduced to just "self
handler
documentClass on: self response stream codec: self codec".
handler
really never should be nil so what the default is is
pretty
irrelevant. If you are using a different class of Document,
you need
to configure that document class for your handler. If you
don't want
to use the web config UI, it's as simple as:
myApplication preferenceAt: #documentClass put:
MyDocumentSubclass
As for the other suggestions, I'm still not convinced. As I
said
before, I support your goal of outputting something other
than HTML,
but Seaside's RenderLoop is designed to render HTML and
WARenderPhaseContinuation makes several assumptions about
doing Html.
Its #updateRoot: calls several HtmlRoot-specific methods
and passes
the root to the Libraries, which also all expect an
HtmlRoot. If you
want to use something else with the RenderLoop, that's
fine, but I
think you'll need to subclass the Continuations to do it,
thus you can
override #processRendering: to do whatever you like. The
Continuations
were designed to be subclasses; that's why there's a
configuration for
them:
myApplication preferenceAt: #renderPhaseContinuationClass
put:
MyContinuationSubclass
myApplication preferenceAt: #actionPhaseContinuationClass
put:
MyContinuationSubclass
Julian
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Robert Shiplett <grshiplett2(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:
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"I have to re-write the method "
WARequestContext
onto our Response's stream using the current
Codec. Try to
use the Document class specified by the closest Handler but
fall back on WAHtmlDocument if there is none."
>newDocument
"Answer a new
Document configured to write
^ (self handler isNil
ifTrue: [ WAHtmlDocument ]
ifFalse: [ self handler
documentClass ])
on: self response
stream codec: self codec
"as"
onto our Response's stream using the current
Codec. Try to
use the Document class specified by the closest Handler but
fall back on the WARenderer default documentClass if there
is none."
>newDocument
"Answer a new
Document configured to write
^ (self handler isNil
ifTrue: [ WARenderer default
documentClass]
ifFalse: [ self handler
documentClass ])
on: self response
stream codec: self codec
to even get my Curl app off the ground.
There are a few other places where I am hitting this
(most anywhere up in the
high level of the framework where
we drop in an HTML default rather than asking for the
default - even immediately after having asked for the app
contentType in this case ... which in my case is not
WAMimeType>>textHtml )
--- On Sun, 1/10/10, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> From: Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: 3.0 merge status (observations and a
code variant)
> To: "Magritte, Pier and Related Tools
..." <smallwiki(a)iam.unibe.ch>
> Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 1:25 PM
> > Using a vanilla Pharo 11.4
> install as recommended today at the pharo
downloads page
> with the Seaside.st mcm file all looks to be
going
well
> until methods begin to recompile late in the
load:
the image
> is 60 MB and Pharo.exe simply consumes the
available CPU
> cycles but the working memory size stays
fixed.
>
> I don't know a Pharo 11.4 image. That looks more
like a VM
> version.
>
> Aha, now I understand. This is installer that
tries to
> unload traits.
> Very strange, almost like a trojan.
>
> I've removed the installer and sake script because
they
> both depend on
> installer. The other scripts work for me though, I
get a
> working image
> within a few minutes.
>
> Lukas
>
>
> > After 15 - 20 minutes I conclude that it is
dead (the
> UI is unresponsive) and kill it with Process
Explorer.
> > There is no busy cursor, no visible
message
box, no
> minimized msg box at the bottom.
> >
> > Nothing new gets logged. I would say it was
very
> close to being done given what is in the
frozen
view of the
> Monticello browser ...
> >
> > The last change written to .changes was
this:
> >
> > RBAssignmentNode removeSelector:
#assignmentPosition!
> > !RBLiteralNode commentStamp: 'md
8/9/2005
14:58'
> prior: 34068596!
> > RBLiteralNode is an AST node that represents
literals
> (e.g., #foo, #(1 2 3), true, etc.).
> >
> > Instance Variables:
> > token <RBLiteralToken>
> the token that contains the literal value as
well as its
>> source positions
>> >
>> > !
> > !RBLiteralNode commentStamp: 'md
8/9/2005
14:58'
> prior: 40424826!
> > RBLiteralNode is an AST node that represents
literals
> (e.g., #foo, #(1 2 3), true, etc.).
> >
> > Instance Variables:
> > token <RBLiteralToken>
> the token that contains the literal value as
well as its
> source positions
> >
> > !
> >
> > --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: 3.0 merge status
(observations and a
> code variant)
> >> To: "Magritte, Pier and Related Tools
..."
<smallwiki(a)iam.unibe.ch>
> >> Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010,
7:26 PM
> >> > There are also many places where
> >> OmniBrowser is broken or where classes in
O2 have
> instances
> >> being sent messages by OB - I have not
even
> bothered
> >> debuggin those as they do not generally
impede
> finding what
> >> is needed to get a base image (Squeak
3.10) or
> Pharo RC-1
> >> (pharo1.0-10502-rc1web09.12.2) to run
Seaside 3.0
> on Win XP
> >> SP3
> >>
> >> O2 has overrides in OB code. You cannot
load both
> into one
> >> image.
> >>
> >> > Here is my last list of classes
where I
> comment out
> >> the class-side initialize until I have
all nec
> loaded, then
> >> uncomment all of those and let fire
> >>
> >> This is more a Seaside related comment,
but I use
> the
> >> following
> >> script. It works out of the box for me:
> >>
> >> [ Gofer new
> >> squeaksource: 'Seaside30';
> >> package: 'LoadOrderTests';
> >> load ]
> >>
> >> valueSupplyingAnswers: {
> >>
> >> {'Load Seaside'. true}.
> >>
> >> {'SqueakSource User Name'.
''}.
> >>
> >> {'SqueakSource Password'.
''}.
> >>
> >> {'Run tests'. false}.
> >> }
> >>
> >> Lukas
> >>
> >> --
> >> Lukas Renggli
> >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
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