I know that Lukas has used Zope/Plone, but I don't
know how current
his
knowledge is.
My knowledge of Zope and Plone dates back to 2002. I maintained some
legacy Zope projects in 2003, but as I discovered Smalltalk and
Seaside around the same time I never went back to Python again.
How far is Pier from offering a competitive experience
to end users
and
developers with regard to something like Plone?
I have no idea in what state Zope/Plone is today. Maybe I should give
another try ...
Is there any interest in the community of competing in
that sphere?
I am interested, but I can't compete against hundreds of companies
and thousands of developers all alone.
Or do most here happily use Seaside/Pier as a toolbox
and the bigger
application type CMS isn't on the radar?
I am using Seaside/Pier for all my web related projects.
And initially I speak as to a basic Plone 3.0
out-of-the-box
capabilities and user/developer experience. Not necessarily the
plethora
of add-on products. Those can come later if the out-of-the-box
experience is compelling enough.
To make the out-of-the-box experience of Pier (especially for those
not knowing Smalltalk and Seaside) quite some work is required.
Naively it seems that content types are easier to
develop in Pier as
opposed to Plone.
This is certainly the case, even if Zope/Plone improved a lot over
the past 5 years.
Lukas
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Lukas Renggli
http://www.lukas-renggli.ch