Hi michael
This is mainly me that prefers SmallWiki in VW because we are also
using it for other experiences and teaching. Roel also has lectures
using VW. And I'm not teaching using Squeak for multiple reasons but
one is that the UI framework is really bad and second I do not want the
impression that Smalltalk is childish. We have enough problems not to
look strange and ridiculous to use smalltalk not to add more. We also
use VW because also Squeak VM are NOT stable on Unix (we had to write a
script to check if they are working, imagine).
Then we are not making money with SmallWiki so we can use the
non-commercial version of VW.
I guess that this is the same for you. James will let us know.
When we started SW, MC was really in its enfancy. If Squeak would have
a better package mechanism
and people would be willing to help and they would be in Squeak then
why not.
Now the point is if people are really willing to help lukas and they
prefer Squeak for me I do not care. But right now SmallWiki is a good
wiki and we should pay attention to it.
Stef
Hi Stéphane,
after using the Squeak version of Smallwiki in a student project
(interfacing a Flash client via SOAP for dynamic visualiztions of
project history and activity) I agree with Ralph on a lot of the
problems he had with the actions design, but it still was way better
than trying to work with the old swiki code :-)
I think that lot of the problems will be resolved with SmallWiki 2.
But it is also important to provide feedback to lukas and others. So
can you be more precise on the problems and how you would solve them?
One thing that really bugs me though is the fact that
Smallwiki is
maintained in VW. As a company we can not afford to buy VW just to run
Smallwiki
I will ask james about that. James what is the status of cincom on
that? Should a company running a wiki pay for VW? I think that this
would be a mistake because this could show how stable is the VM. But
just let us know.
and instead of spending some of the time I don't
have ;-) on porting,
I would love to be able to invest that time into development efforts
directly.
Is there any chance you guys could be persuaded to switch to Squeak?
Stef