Esteban, the first thing that comes to my mind is that the JSON encoding somehow scrambles the URL. Could you send me the url which /should/ be shown and the one from the loadScript at the end of the page source? CU, Udo Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: > > Hi, > I'm trying to render some uploaded files as flash movies... but without > success by now... I thought it was easy, just putting this method in > MAFileModel (and of course, changing #renderOn:) : > > renderFlashOn: html > html swfObject > url: (self urlOn: html); > with: 'Loading...'. > > But nothing happens (it shows "Movie not loaded...") > > If I put an "example" url, the example movie is loaded ok... :( > > renderFlashOn: html > html swfObject > url: 'http://www.mariaclaudiacortes.com/colors/Colors.swf'; > with: 'Loading...'. > > So I think there is something in the URL generated by #urlOn: that is not > good for swfObject (writing the html code directly drives to the same > answer)... > > Any idea? > Thanks, > Esteban > > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki > _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

/seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo

Hi, Udo, This is the generated URL, with #urlOn: /seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo And this is the script generated: <script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/function onLoad(){swfobject.embedSWF('/seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo', 'id12', '310', '137', '9.0.0', '/seaside/files/SwfObjectFileLibrary/expressInstall.swf', {}, {}, {"id":"id12"});}/*]]>*/</script> Seems to be the same :( Cheers, Esteban On 2009-02-08 15:37:46 -0200, Udo Schneider <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: > Esteban, > > the first thing that comes to my mind is that the JSON encoding somehow > scrambles the URL. > > Could you send me the url which /should/ be shown and the one from the > loadScript at the end of the page source? > > CU, > > Udo > > > Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >> Hi, >> I'm trying to render some uploaded files as flash movies... but without >> success by now... I thought it was easy, just putting this method in >> MAFileModel (and of course, changing #renderOn:): >> >> renderFlashOn: html >> html swfObject >> url: (self urlOn: html); >> with: 'Loading...'. >> >> But nothing happens (it shows "Movie not loaded...") >> >> If I put an "example" url, the example movie is loaded ok... :( >> >> renderFlashOn: html >> html swfObject >> url: 'http://www.mariaclaudiacortes.com/colors/Colors.swf'; >> with: 'Loading...'. >> >> So I think there is something in the URL generated by #urlOn: that is >> not good for swfObject (writing the html code directly drives to the >> same answer)... >> >> Any idea? >> Thanks, >> Esteban >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

No, it starts a download (of mymovie.swf) :(

No, it starts a download (of mymovie.swf) :( Cheers, Esteban  On 2009-02-09 12:02:44 -0200, Udo Schneider <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: > Esteban, > > > /seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo > What happens if you type the URL directly in the browser? Does the flash > file play? > > > CU, > > Udo > > > Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >> Hi, Udo, >> >> This is the generated URL, with #urlOn: >> >> /seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo >> >> And this is the script generated: >> >> <script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/function >> onLoad(){swfobject.embedSWF('/seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo', >> 'id12', '310', '137', '9.0.0', >> '/seaside/files/SwfObjectFileLibrary/expressInstall.swf', {}, {}, >> {"id":"id12"});}/*]]>*/</script> >> >> >> Seems to be the same :( >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban >> >> On 2009-02-08 15:37:46 -0200, Udo Schneider >> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >> >>> Esteban, >>> >>> the first thing that comes to my mind is that the JSON encoding somehow >>> scrambles the URL. >>> >>> Could you send me the url which /should/ be shown and the one from the >>> loadScript at the end of the page source? >>> >>> CU, >>> >>> Udo >>> >>> >>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>> Hi, >>>> I'm trying to render some uploaded files as flash movies... but >>>> without >>>> success by now... I thought it was easy, just putting this method in >>>> MAFileModel (and of course, changing #renderOn:): >>>> >>>> renderFlashOn: html >>>> html swfObject >>>> url: (self urlOn: html); >>>> with: 'Loading...'. >>>> >>>> But nothing happens (it shows "Movie not loaded...") >>>> >>>> If I put an "example" url, the example movie is loaded ok... :( >>>> >>>> renderFlashOn: html >>>> html swfObject >>>> url: 'http://www.mariaclaudiacortes.com/colors/Colors.swf'; >>>> with: 'Loading...'. >>>> >>>> So I think there is something in the URL generated by #urlOn: that is >>>> not good for swfObject (writing the html code directly drives to the >>>> same answer)... >>>> >>>> Any idea? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

Seems to be: application/x-shockwave-flash :( Cheers, Esteban On 2009-02-09 14:32:21 -0200, Udo Schneider <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: > > No, it starts a download (of mymovie.swf) :( > is "mymovie.swf" the name of the file you uploaded? If yes we can at > least assume, that the URL does indeed return the uploaded file. > > Wild Guess 2: As the browser downloads the file instead of displaying it > ... could you check which MIME Type is returned for mymovie.swf in the > HTTP Response? (Firebug might help here). > > CU, > > Udo > > > Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >> No, it starts a download (of mymovie.swf) :( >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban >>  >> On 2009-02-09 12:02:44 -0200, Udo Schneider >> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >> >>> Esteban, >>> >>>> /seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo >>> What happens if you type the URL directly in the browser? Does the >>> flash >>> file play? >>> >>> >>> CU, >>> >>> Udo >>> >>> >>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>> Hi, Udo, >>>> >>>> This is the generated URL, with #urlOn: >>>> >>>> /seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo >>>> >>>> And this is the script generated: >>>> >>>> <script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/function >>>> onLoad(){swfobject.embedSWF('/seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo', >>>> 'id12', '310', '137', '9.0.0', >>>> '/seaside/files/SwfObjectFileLibrary/expressInstall.swf', {}, {}, >>>> {"id":"id12"});}/*]]>*/</script> >>>> >>>> >>>> Seems to be the same :( >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> On 2009-02-08 15:37:46 -0200, Udo Schneider >>>> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >>>> >>>>> Esteban, >>>>> >>>>> the first thing that comes to my mind is that the JSON encoding >>>>> somehow >>>>> scrambles the URL. >>>>> >>>>> Could you send me the url which /should/ be shown and the one from >>>>> the >>>>> loadScript at the end of the page source? >>>>> >>>>> CU, >>>>> >>>>> Udo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I'm trying to render some uploaded files as flash movies... but >>>>>> without >>>>>> success by now... I thought it was easy, just putting this method in >>>>>> MAFileModel (and of course, changing #renderOn:): >>>>>> >>>>>> renderFlashOn: html >>>>>> html swfObject >>>>>> url: (self urlOn: html); >>>>>> with: 'Loading...'. >>>>>> >>>>>> But nothing happens (it shows "Movie not loaded...") >>>>>> >>>>>> If I put an "example" url, the example movie is loaded ok... :( >>>>>> >>>>>> renderFlashOn: html >>>>>> html swfObject >>>>>> url: 'http://www.mariaclaudiacortes.com/colors/Colors.swf'; >>>>>> with: 'Loading...'. >>>>>> >>>>>> So I think there is something in the URL generated by #urlOn: >>>>>> that is >>>>>> not good for swfObject (writing the html code directly drives to >>>>>> the >>>>>> same answer)... >>>>>> >>>>>> Any idea? >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

Or maybe you want the sources?

Cheers, Esteban On 2009-02-10 07:36:01 -0200, Udo Schneider <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: > That's really change. I still assume I have a bug somewhere in > SWFObject. Is there any way for me to take a look at it? > > CU, > > Udo > > Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >> Seems to be: >> >> application/x-shockwave-flash >> >> :( >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban >> >> >> On 2009-02-09 14:32:21 -0200, Udo Schneider >> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >> >>>> No, it starts a download (of mymovie.swf) :( >>> is "mymovie.swf" the name of the file you uploaded? If yes we can at >>> least assume, that the URL does indeed return the uploaded file. >>> >>> Wild Guess 2: As the browser downloads the file instead of >>> displaying it >>> ... could you check which MIME Type is returned for mymovie.swf in the >>> HTTP Response? (Firebug might help here). >>> >>> CU, >>> >>> Udo >>> >>> >>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>> No, it starts a download (of mymovie.swf) :( >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Esteban >>>>  >>>> On 2009-02-09 12:02:44 -0200, Udo Schneider >>>> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >>>> >>>>> Esteban, >>>>> >>>>>> /seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo >>>>> What happens if you type the URL directly in the browser? Does the >>>>> flash >>>>> file play? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> CU, >>>>> >>>>> Udo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>>>> Hi, Udo, >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the generated URL, with #urlOn: >>>>>> >>>>>> /seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo >>>>>> >>>>>> And this is the script generated: >>>>>> >>>>>> <script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/function >>>>>> onLoad(){swfobject.embedSWF('/seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo', >>>>>> >>>>>> 'id12', '310', '137', '9.0.0', >>>>>> '/seaside/files/SwfObjectFileLibrary/expressInstall.swf', {}, {}, >>>>>> {"id":"id12"});}/*]]>*/</script> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems to be the same :( >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2009-02-08 15:37:46 -0200, Udo Schneider >>>>>> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Esteban, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> the first thing that comes to my mind is that the JSON encoding >>>>>>> somehow >>>>>>> scrambles the URL. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could you send me the url which /should/ be shown and the one from >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> loadScript at the end of the page source? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CU, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Udo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> I'm trying to render some uploaded files as flash movies... but >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> success by now... I thought it was easy, just putting this >>>>>>>> method in >>>>>>>> MAFileModel (and of course, changing #renderOn:): >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> renderFlashOn: html >>>>>>>> html swfObject >>>>>>>> url: (self urlOn: html); >>>>>>>> with: 'Loading...'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But nothing happens (it shows "Movie not loaded...") >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If I put an "example" url, the example movie is loaded ok... :( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> renderFlashOn: html >>>>>>>> html swfObject >>>>>>>> url: 'http://www.mariaclaudiacortes.com/colors/Colors.swf'; >>>>>>>> with: 'Loading...'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I think there is something in the URL generated by #urlOn: >>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>> not good for swfObject (writing the html code directly drives to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> same answer)... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any idea? >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki

Ok, I solve the "problem".

Ok, I solve the "problem". The flash plugin does not read files without the ".swf" file extension... yes, it is stupid. So, I changed MAFIleModel in order to render meaningful urls (bah... more or less meaningful), but enough to make it understandable for the plugin... and that's all, everithing now works like a charm. Cheers, Esteban On 2009-02-12 09:31:39 -0200, Udo Schneider <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: > Esteban, > >> Or maybe you want the sources? > I'll drop you a private mail. > > CU, > > Udo > > >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban >> >> On 2009-02-10 07:36:01 -0200, Udo Schneider >> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >> >>> That's really change. I still assume I have a bug somewhere in >>> SWFObject. Is there any way for me to take a look at it? >>> >>> CU, >>> >>> Udo >>> >>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>> Seems to be: >>>> >>>> application/x-shockwave-flash >>>> >>>> :( >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Esteban >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2009-02-09 14:32:21 -0200, Udo Schneider >>>> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >>>> >>>>>> No, it starts a download (of mymovie.swf) :( >>>>> is "mymovie.swf" the name of the file you uploaded? If yes we can at >>>>> least assume, that the URL does indeed return the uploaded file. >>>>> >>>>> Wild Guess 2: As the browser downloads the file instead of >>>>> displaying it >>>>> ... could you check which MIME Type is returned for mymovie.swf in >>>>> the >>>>> HTTP Response? (Firebug might help here). >>>>> >>>>> CU, >>>>> >>>>> Udo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>>>> No, it starts a download (of mymovie.swf) :( >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>  >>>>>> On 2009-02-09 12:02:44 -0200, Udo Schneider >>>>>> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Esteban, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo >>>>>>> What happens if you type the URL directly in the browser? Does the >>>>>>> flash >>>>>>> file play? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CU, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Udo >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>>>>>> Hi, Udo, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is the generated URL, with #urlOn: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> /seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And this is the script generated: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <script type="text/javascript">/*<![CDATA[*/function >>>>>>>> onLoad(){swfobject.embedSWF('/seaside/Stroytrast?_s=rigOmvO5PzX_VmOo', >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'id12', '310', '137', '9.0.0', >>>>>>>> '/seaside/files/SwfObjectFileLibrary/expressInstall.swf', {}, {}, >>>>>>>> {"id":"id12"});}/*]]>*/</script> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Seems to be the same :( >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2009-02-08 15:37:46 -0200, Udo Schneider >>>>>>>> <Udo.Schneider(a)homeaddress.de&gt; said: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Esteban, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the first thing that comes to my mind is that the JSON encoding >>>>>>>>> somehow >>>>>>>>> scrambles the URL. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Could you send me the url which /should/ be shown and the one >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> loadScript at the end of the page source? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CU, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Udo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Esteban Lorenzano schrieb: >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to render some uploaded files as flash movies... but >>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>> success by now... I thought it was easy, just putting this >>>>>>>>>> method in >>>>>>>>>> MAFileModel (and of course, changing #renderOn:): >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> renderFlashOn: html >>>>>>>>>> html swfObject >>>>>>>>>> url: (self urlOn: html); >>>>>>>>>> with: 'Loading...'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But nothing happens (it shows "Movie not loaded...") >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If I put an "example" url, the example movie is loaded ok... :( >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> renderFlashOn: html >>>>>>>>>> html swfObject >>>>>>>>>> url: 'http://www.mariaclaudiacortes.com/colors/Colors.swf'; >>>>>>>>>> with: 'Loading...'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I think there is something in the URL generated by #urlOn: >>>>>>>>>> that is >>>>>>>>>> not good for swfObject (writing the html code directly >>>>>>>>>> drives to >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> same answer)... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any idea? >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Esteban >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki _______________________________________________ SmallWiki, Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki